Weather station in Antarctica records high of 65, the continent's hottest temperature ever

If glaciers were forming and melting millions of years ago and were forming and melting today, why are humans responsible for glaciers forming and melting? Could it be something else?

Did humans make it rain today too?

 

Terrible argument you made with no real evidence, just theory.

Do you lose a lot in courts of law too?

 

That's what I thought. When your data is challenged and exposed not backing what you are claiming you are ready to run.

Exactly the outcome I predicted.

Another flat earther failure.

 

You are still trying to avoid answering the question directly. Why? Just make a declaratory statement.

Why does the fact that humans were incapable of being the cause of something millions of years mean that they are also incapable of being the cause of something today?

 

If you think pointing fingers at you while lol'ing is "backing down", I get the feeling people have been "backing down" from you your whole life. xD

Your government funded climatologists are on the take. They are distinctly dishonest and are born to run. Just like a lot of people on your side of the fence.

I can't help it if you think everything is about you, sometimes it's just not.

How's that shoe feel? Getting used to it?

 

The climate changed.

 

Glaciers started melting 20,000 years ago, you just want $10 from everybody to "cure" CC. At some point one would think it would be less work to just go get a real job.

Right?

 

You never proved humans can melt glaciers unless we actually take a blow torch to it.

Why do you make up nonsense and try and sell it as fact?

 

This is the "big leagues"?

 

This is remedial for the guys who get D in science, lol

 

Where unsupported claims are challenged and data is reviewed you bet.

You don't get away with claiming humans are the primary source of climate change especially when you can't even identify the primary catalyst of climate change.

 

This is literally the flat earther argument:

Flat Earthers: CO2 is the primary source of climate change! Humans are producing CO2 therefore Humans are the primary source of Climate change!

Rational people: So if that's true how were temperatures millions of years before humans lower when the CO2 was 14-17 times higher than now when humans aren't even 1% of the increase now?

Flat Earthers: That doesn't matter! My scientists on government payroll say so!

 

Do you have a link proving that temperatures were 14 to 17 times higher yet temperature was lower?

 

If you read the last few pages you would have known that yes.

Post 487. Enjoy

Secondly, since the concentration of carbon dioxide in our atmosphere has been many times higher in the past than today, peaking during the Cambrian Period 500 million years ago at 7,000 parts per million – around 18 times higher than the present – it is clear that the industrialisation of mankind is not the main cause of increasing levels of carbon dioxide.

Thirdly, since the late Ordovician Period around 450 million years ago, when CO2 concentrations were nearly 12 times higher at 4,400 parts per million, was an ice age, it is clear that high concentrations of carbon dioxide do not cause catastrophic global warming.

In other words, the fact that high levels of carbon dioxide occur naturally and do not cause the planet to fry, totally negates the claims of the global warmers that mankind’s CO2 emissions will cause catastrophic climate change.

 

The Kooky "Climate Warming" crowd is getting close to the "Flat Earthers" at this point.

 

You got a D in science?

 

That's not a link, that is a quote. And it uses the sort of language fossil fuel funded think tanks and their websites often use to try to ridicule climate scientists. How about an actual link with a graph.

It is true that other forcings work to cause climate change in the past but usually these work in conjunction with CO2 levels and often high CO2 is a positive feedback result of these other forcings.

In the current warming orbital mechanics and solar cycles are all moving towards cooling trends while man-made CO2 emissions are rising.

The correlation is obvious.

 

No. I have a BSc. and worked plant sciences at a major university for most of my working life.

I averaged B+ but got quite a few A's mostly in microbiology and chemistry.

Got a couple of A+'s along the way too

 

Psst I gave you the post number that has the link. LOL My God.

Are you seriously that ill prepared?

Yes its obvious without facts so I should just accept the word of someone who doesn't even look at the post they were given to find the link they were demanding.

This is going to be fun

 

Yeah considering you couldn't even find the link to the source of my quote even after I gave you the post number I'm having trouble buying that.

But let's not waste time here. Since you are jumping into this discussion are you also under the belief that humans are the primary source of climate change by their CO2 output?

 

I've already had this same discussion in 6 or seven other threads so I'm not going to waste my time chasing down a link - especially since just from the language of your quote I can tell it is coming from an unscientific and biased source.

I could just as easily tell you to go search out my posts in the ozone or greta threads in Current Affairs for my response.

It may start out fun for you but I don't think it will end that way. That is what usually happens in climate change discussions I've been in on this board anyway.

 

Oh, so you think humans melt glaciers and make it rain too? lol

We'll see shortly, I guess.... lol

 

Just post the link and lets have a look.

Yes, the current warming we are experiencing is caused by CO2 emissions during the industrial era.

This is not controversial outside the the bubble world of fossil fuel funded think tanks and the websites they fund.

 

I understand the science of climate change and have studied it more than you.

Your statement is a strawman mixed with a gross simplification and deflection anyway.

Are you capable of actually discussing science and facts or is it going to be just the usual tactics and deflections?

So post your link and let's see where the quote comes from.

 

Yes no verification and conclusions based on no facts. Definitely the work of someone with a B in science. lol

Your entry in here is hardly impressive when you draw baseless conclusions without verifying them.

I didn't join ozone or greta threads. You joined this one. Ill prepared obviously.

haha I don't think so because I'm only interested in you proving your case not wasting time.

Since you are jumping into this discussion are you also under the belief that humans are the primary source of climate change by their CO2 output? This is the argument you are weighing into.

Let's set up the discussion right here from the start.