What actually are the big differences between the three Abrahamic religions?

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  1. dairyair

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    Read the bible. You are wrong. Pharaoh, who has no name but was moses' uncle by his egyptian mother, had NO CHOICE.

    How did the folks in south american and austraillia have a chance to repent? They never heard of noah's god.

    http://www.misconceptions-about-islam.com/muhammad-married-young-girl.htm
    You weren't there. So you have no facts.
    Nope nothing else. You don't seem to know much. Except what has been spoon fed to you.
     
  2. Margot2

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    Prunepicker insists that Aisha was 9 and refuses to acknowledge that she was born before the Call.
     
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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    How do muslims believe in Jesus as a prophet???
    They do none of the things he said, and never even mention them:


    Muslims never paid heed to "Love thy enemies."

    Muslims deny the crucifixion of Jesus.

    Muslims deny the resurrection of Jesus.

    Muslims deny the Gospels.

    Muslims deny the Gospels be preached over all the world, and the end comes.

    Muslims deny the Eucharist.

    Muslims deny Christ was the son-of-god.

    Muslims deny Jesus said, "all man can become the sons-of-god."

    Muslims deny salvation by faith in The Truth.

    Muslims deny that, in 32AD, Elijah returned from Heaven as an immortal, one who never died.
     
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    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    Its OK if they do pray to Christ because he is the image of the God who created everything.

    Christ is Truth.
    He is the personification of the concept we cll Truth.
    He is the image of the Creator which we call Reality.
    One is the other for men.

    Truth is in the Father, and the in the Reality which is God.


    "I am the Truth, ... and the way and the life"...
     
  5. Prunepicker

    Prunepicker Well-Known Member

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    And you obviously approve of this because you're defending Muhammad's
    pedophilia.

    It was also lawful to have slaves, I suppose you're good with that, too.
     
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    Prunepicker Well-Known Member

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    I have read the Bible. Pharoah was given multiple opportunities. Perhaps
    it's you who should read the Bible.
    Are you sure there were people living there? Or is this merely an extrapolation.

    Were you there when Washington was president? Yes, I have facts. It's
    called history.
     
  7. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    They claim that they believe in Jesus as a prophet. That's what the committee that wrote the Koran told them to believe. I haven't conducted my own personal survey. They are all imaginary as far as I'm concerned.
     
  8. dairyair

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    Then comprehend it. God hardened the pharaoh's heart every time, so the pharaoh had no choice. Who is still nameless despite being moses' uncle.

    Oh yes I am sure. 4500 yrs ago there were civilizations all over the world. You think they only existed in just the ME?


    Then show us the history. I gave you history showing you are wrong.
     
  9. Colonel K

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    Christianity is the outlier, with its "Three Gods for the price of one!" deal.
     
  10. dairyair

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    Yet nothing from you about god being a pedophilia. Mary was 12, 14 tops.
     
  11. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    If you attack a desert dwelling Arab who banged a 9 year-old girl sometime around the year 625 be sure to attack countless Americans who were banging 7 year-old girls here in the States as recently as 1895. A lot of those 7 year old girls are people's great grandmothers.

    People can create rules to make all kinds of actions lawful. Slavery is an example of that. Would you exist if slavery hadn't existed? At some point in time your ancestors did something as a consequence of slavery existing that eventually resulted in you being born. Consequently if you could magically change the past you would create a future in which you might not exist. Therefore the world we find ourselves in is the best possible world at this very minute. People in the past suffered all kinds of hardships and troubles. But we are the end result of that. To deny the past is to kill ourselves in the present.
     
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    I comprehend it far better than you. If you'll remember during the first few plagues
    Pharaoh began by hardening his own heart. Yes, he had opportunity to change. Afterwards
    is when God hardened his heart.

    Read Exodus 7 and 8.
    No you didn't. However I just provided the history to show you to be wrong.

    Read Exodus 7 and 8.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Because they didn't have sex. Certainly you know that?
     
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    You obviously don't realize that Muhammad, call him what you like, was
    supposedly a spiritual leader, he invented that "religion of peace" and allah.

    You seem to be stuck in the past. Are you aware that that "religion of
    peace" still practices this?

    Yes people can make rules and so far you're fine with the rules approving of
    pedophilia and slavery regardless of the era. That's really creepy.
     
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    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    If God was so powerful why did he need Pharaoh's approval for the Israelites to leave Egypt? Isn't this the deity who made the sun stand still? He could have simply put the Israelites on magic carpets and flown them to the Promised Land.
     
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    We just got rid of those rules that approved of slavery and pedophilia for the general population but slavery is still legal in America as a matter of law. The slavers are constantly capturing new people to become slaves.

    The fact remains that pedophilia was an accepted behavior in America as it was in the rest of the world until very recently. Your own immediate ancestors probably engaged in it or were victims of it. It's a fact of actual history. So do I go off the rails about some imaginary desert Arab who banged a nine year-old Arab girl? No, I don't. We have countless millions of real people in our own real past who did far worse.
     
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    Read.

    Good grief.
     
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    The past is over. Except that "religion of peace" still practices pedophilia,
    it's perfectly legal. I'm sure you're aware of their slavery.

    I still don't understand your infatuation with trying to making both of those
    abhorrent acts seem perfectly acceptable.
     
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    You conveniently skipped answering a part of your claim. why?

    Still, pharaoh, who still is nameless even though he is moses' uncle, had is heart hardened by god. So even if god didn't do it for all 10 plagues, this mysterious pharaoh didn't have a choice all the time.

    How does a woman get pregnant?
    And as WoG is saying, pedophilia was normal just over 100 yrs ago. Actually it wasn't called pedophilia because getting married in early teens was fairly common just 100 yrs ago in USA. If US changes age laws of consent that isn't mohammads problem. It is yours for being a hypocrite.
     
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    They needed him dead, for the trick to work. Apparently they still need him dead. Nice !
     
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    Pedophilia is a capital offense and the penalty is hanging or beheading. Why are you so persistent in your lie? Can't you find something else that is REAL to criticize about Islam?
     
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    Muhammed's mission was to get the people of the Arabian peninsula to return to the God of Abraham and reject the "time of the ignorance".
     
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    IMO, the biggest difference lies in the religious books that form the foundation of all 3 religions. The Jewish scripture and the Christian Bible, which incorporates the Jewish scripture is a much larger book, than the Koran. But that is not all. Both the Jewish and Christian texts, in the way the language is expressed lends itself to much more than just a literal interpretation. Much of the language can be interpreted in a much larger fashion than the Koran. This allows for Judaism and Christianity to be reformed, to keep up with science and the times, whereas the much shorter Koran, and the language used is much more difficult to reform, to modernize.

    So there is a difficulty in interpreting what the Koran says about apostates, that they should be killed. You are stuck with having to kill them, if you are to be a good muslim. Kill them for Allah.

    So the Koran itself is the problem, as its language is fairly clear, and is hard to be interpreted except in the literal. Imagine taking away the "ifs" and "buts" from the language that scientists use. To limit the language, as the Koran seems to be limited in the language used.
     
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    Nah... you don't kill apostates ... The concept of apostate in the Arab world is treason... as in if you commit crimes you have betrayed both the faith and the community. So, if you are convicted of rape, murder, pedophilia etc.. you are automatically "apostate".

    Its a bit nuanced and slightly different than Western thinking because in Islam the victim gets MORE consideration than the perpetrator.
     
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    What is pedophilia in the arab/muslim world? Legal ages(18) hasn't been around that long. Even in the US, it varies state to state for legal consent.
     
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    A better question is if God had been so concerned about the Israelites why did he allow them to hang out in Egypt in the first place? Every time things got too hot for them elsewhere they hightailed it to their hideouts in Egypt. Even Jesus hid out in Egypt.
     

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