What Actually Happens When a Country Bans Abortion

At least we are inheriting our own problems and not some other countries

 

Many abortion supporters even talk about "eliminating the undesirable".

 

Well that's the next step right? The reasoning isn't far removed

 

They talk so much about inequality and racism, but it seems to me abortion is the worst form of inequality. Some have a right to live, and others don't.

 

And that right to live is decided by if you are an inconvenience or not which I find disgusting

 

Imagine if someone said we were going to eliminate racism from society by aborting all black babies in the womb.

That's kind of what I hear too when people talk about using abortion as a means to eliminate poverty from society.

 

So the answer is killing? How Stalin-esque.....

 

Funny the things you "hear" and/or "imagine".


I've never heard anyone say poverty would be eliminated by abortion.

...and your imagination is hardly a reliable source for facts...LOL...

 

Correct, born people have rights , the unborn don't.

Taking away women's right to bodily autonomy is inequality, what Anti-Choicers fight for.

Giving ZEFs more rights than any born person is inequality, what Anti-Choicers fight for.

 

What does welfare payment have to do with terminating a life?

 

Yeah, yeah...and all that glorious talk-a-rama goes STRAIGHT in the garbage can when it pertains to the needle, huh?

 

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Sleep Monster: If a woman is pregnant, why should she be under any government mandate about it? Do we report to the government when we have to have a hysterectomy? Should we be required to report the removal of an appendix? Are tubal ligations and vasectomies reported to the state? Don't we all have a right to complete privacy and confidentiality where our medical records are concerned? Where is the law that dictates we must report a woman's pregnancy? Isn't that part of her private medical records? How does the state even know if we see an ob/gyn for the "condition" of pregnancy? How does the government know we've chosen to abort?

Seriously, how is a woman's pregnancy anyone's business but her own? Roe v Wade was about the right to personal privacy. It's based on Section 1 of the 14th Amendment. Does that not apply to women in their child-bearing years?
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FoxHastings:Correct, born people have rights , the unborn don't.

Taking away women's right to bodily autonomy is inequality, what Anti-Choicers fight for.

Giving ZEFs more rights than any born person is inequality, what Anti-Choicers fight for.

Yes, I know you have no answers to the posts you quoted....it's clear...no rebuttals, no argument, nothing..

 

No, that's totally wrong, and the woman known as Roe (Wade was the bame of the man who got her pregnant and took her to court to prevent her from aborting the fetus) changing her mond decades after the case went to court is not relevant.

It IS about the woman. And my question stands: what makes her medical condition anybody else's business in the first place? Making it about a fetus that could not in any way survive outside of the womb is an emotional stance, not a scientific one.

Another question for you (and please try for a logical answer rather than one based on emotion): does Section 1 of the 14th Amendment not apply to women of childbearing age? A yes or a no, please.

Women have been aborting unwanted pregnancies for thousands of years. The difference made by the Roe v Wade decision is that the procedure became safe for the first time in history, no longer a matter for back alley operators and desperate women risking death.

 

I cannot BELIEVE I am having to post this AGAIN


it is not rocket science to realise that if you offer people a way to support a child when they are already struggling to make ends meet it will reduce the abortion rate

 

Nonsense, that's a purely emotional opinion. Over 90% of abortions take place within the first 10 weeks, at which time the fetus is about the size of a prune and weighs about 8 grams. That is not a human being.

And NO ONE actually likes abortion. Stating that there are "abortion fans" is a dick move. What we're fans of is choice ... or do you think "my body, my choice" only applies to anti-vaxxers?

If s woman is pregnant, that is NO ONE'S BUSINESS BUT HER OWN. I emphasize that because you don't seem able to grasp the concept. Please actually read Section 1 of the 14th Amendment (which is the basis of the Roe v Wade decision) and then tell me how it doesn't apply to a pregnant woman or girl.

 

Awwwww! Did the nasty peoples suggest you have a vaccine? Now let us reverse it. We won’t let you get a vaccine and you are being pressured into exposing yourself to a virus that will leave you with life long disabilities and threaten you life

 

So…. You won’t then





Amazing how that map mostly matches Republican states but what really really offends me is how many men railing against abort are also against child support payments

 

What needle?

If you're talking about anti-vaxxers, you're howling at the wrong moon where I'm concerned. I hear them chanting "my body, my choice" at rallies, yet most of them are also anti-choice, and don't even recognize their own hypocrisy in that little mantra.

And if you're talking about executions, again you're howling in the wrong direction with me. The same anti-choicers are in favor of that, too, and again they don't even see their own hypocrisy.

 

Who said it will elimate poverty? You have it the wrong way around. - eliminate poverty and you will vastly reduce abortion

 

Sounds like there is no guarantee to that that the money is going to result in the intended outcome.
Come up with some idea that would have more of an individual guarantee (you stop getting the money if you get abortion), and pro-lifers might consider it.

 

It's the deep south, high Black populations, or more rural remote areas that were traditionally cut off by dense forests and mountains, where traditionally the poorer people escaped to because they couldn't afford to live closer to civilization.
New Mexico is kind of out in the middle of nowhere and has high percents of native Americans and Mexicans.
Oklahoma is the only one I don't have an obvious explanation for. They have always had poor people leaving the state, even in the 1940s. The Dust Bowl and a few native american tribes may have something to do with it.

But notice that New York is not that far behind those Republican states.

 

why doesn’t the right want to actually try those things shown to reduce abortion? Because it is no fun if there is no slut shaming

 

An! I see! How sad! “Blacks” seemingly do not deserve to be given a fair chance -and let’s not mention the indigenous

 

Too bad for you, that doesn't discount the logic I presented to you.

This alternate explanation suggests the correlation may have nothing to do with Republicans.

(Oh, by the way, I do think there is a correlation, but it's not the direct cause and effect one you think)

 

No correlation since your "analysis" was about 100-200 years old...LOL