Correct, but we're not talking about hitmen committing murder. We are talking about abortionists committing abortion.
Why are you repeating yourself? You already asked this question in the post which you posted 6 minutes before this one! And I answered! Links below. Link to your post: http://www.politicalforum.com/index...s-on-abortion.580016/page-130#post-1073030997 Link to my reply: http://www.politicalforum.com/index...s-on-abortion.580016/page-130#post-1073031059 "Baby" is not a scientific term. You've been told this before. I'm tired of educating you. Okay, so you didn't SAY it but you obviously believe it! Does it make sense? Well, if you think that possession of obscene material should be illegal, then it would not make sense. Unless you can say how possession of obscene material causes harm to society. So then why did you ask me if I'VE been affected by all the millions of abortions that have happened in the last thousand years? I do.
↑ chris155au:""Because it is killing a life."" Isn't that MURDER? WHY CAN'T YOU ANSWER THAT QUESTION??? YES, it is....why are you dancing around that FACT? For the thousandth time : ..see for an abortionist to do anything they need a pregnant woman who wants an abortion.... Can't say a hitman committed murder but NOT the person who hired them... Now, quit going around in circles and cherry picking only what you think you can address....try the hard stuff
What TF does "they are both lives" got to do with how much rights they should have ? Rights should be equal. Don't you believe in equal rights??? NO, you don't IF you believe women don't have the right to bodily autonomy and believe that a fetus can use another's body to sustain it's life when NO ONE ELSE HAS THAT RIGHT..
UH, since when can a rape victim have the freedom to MURDER anyone they want? They don't even have the freedom to murder their rapist...
chris155au said: ↑ Yes, it's not murder in the case of rape.""" WHY NOT? Why is killing a fetus, an "innocent life", not murder in the case of rape but is murder if it's due to consensual sex??? HOW is the fetus "different"? It isn't. How is the abortion different? It isn't. BTW, don't Anti-Choicers INSIST that a fetus is the SAME as a born person? YES THEY DO.
Yes because only people who can be the victims of murder are those who are born. I am glad that at least one anti-abortionist finally gets it.
Yes, and if a born person threatens someone's life, they can be killed. That's not murder. Same as the unborn.
FoxHastings said: ↑ WHY NOT? Why is killing a fetus, an "innocent life", not murder in the case of rape but is murder if it's due to consensual sex??? HOW is the fetus "different"? It isn't. How is the abortion different? It isn't. BTW, don't Anti-Choicers INSIST that a fetus is the SAME as a born person? YES THEY DO. So you are FOR the right to abortion? You ARE a Pro-Choicer???? OK, so again WHY are anti-choicers against abortion? A question you have never answered. Here are MORE UNanswered questions: Why is killing a fetus, an "innocent life", not murder in the case of rape but is murder if it's due to consensual sex??? HOW is the fetus "different"? It isn't. How is the abortion different? It isn't. BTW, don't Anti-Choicers INSIST that a fetus is the SAME as a born person? YES THEY DO.
In cases of rape and to save the woman's life, yes I am. ELECTIVE abortion? It's not murder in either case according to the law. Correct. No they do not. Just like we don't consider a child the SAME as an adult. They are at different stages of life development. Obviously.
You also think that it's wrong to not allow abortion when it's NOT rape. So again, why bring up rape? Convenience?
Yes, but it's the SAME as murder. You gave up on your argument about how the unborn are not lives a while back. Do you want me to continue to destroy you from where we left off? I'm happy to! You're probably not!
They should have the same rights. I made that clear. Already answered in the last line of this post: http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?goto/post&id=1073032839#post-1073032839 It's not about a fetus using another's body to sustain their life, it's about the idea that nobody should be allowed to kill them except the woman herself.
