What do you honestly think of Black Lives Matter?

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What do you honestly think of Black Lives Matter?

  1. The moral equivalent of the Founding Fathers

    4 vote(s)
    3.6%
  2. Fully justified although they go too far sometimes.

    24 vote(s)
    21.4%
  3. Impossible to say

    1 vote(s)
    0.9%
  4. Unjustified although I understand where they're coming from.

    9 vote(s)
    8.0%
  5. Bunch of racist thugs.

    74 vote(s)
    66.1%
  1. Reasonablerob

    Reasonablerob Well-Known Member

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    There is no police brutality, there is only disproportionate black violence which generates an appropriate response from the police. You're finding fault with the cure when you should be focused on the disease.
     
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    That statement is not based on Faith but on certain basic properties of numbers and mensuration which are independent of any data whatsoever, whether you believe it or not.
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    Did you read the book?[/QUOTE]

    What an amaing statement. Which basic properties of numbers? The prime factorization theorem perhaps?

    I have not read Diamond but have read reviews. I have no basic quarrel with his theses. I recognize it as a fairly good argument as to how the inferiority of Africa came about.
     
  3. Patricio Da Silva

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    Do you know any black people?

    Talk to them about the subject. Educate yourself.
     
  4. Reasonablerob

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    Yes and yes and they largely agree with me, the greatest victims of black violence are other black people.
     
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  5. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    What an amaing statement. Which basic properties of numbers? The prime factorization theorem perhaps?

    I have not read Diamond but have read reviews. I have no basic quarrel with his theses. I recognize it as a fairly good argument as to how the inferiority of Africa came about.[/QUOTE]

    Diamond's book does not deal with genetics at all.

    The basic property of numbers I refer to is that Intergroup variations always exceed intragroup variations. Group characteristics are averages made up of very wide variations within the groups and therefore basically meaningless when applied to individuals. That is a basic property of how differences are measured and completely independent of what the data is.

    Is a black genius any less a genius than a white or Asian one?
     
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    Diamond's book does not deal with genetics at all.

    The basic property of numbers I refer to is that Intergroup variations always exceed intragroup variations. Group characteristics are averages made up of very wide variations within the groups and therefore basically meaningless when applied to individuals. That is a basic property of how differences are measured and completely independent of what the data is.

    Is a black genius any less a genius than a white or Asian one?[/QUOTE]

    Sure. the average doesn't tell you anything about the individual. But it does tell you something about the group. In this particular case it tells us that genes for aggression are much more common in Blacks than Whites.

    There are many fewer Black geniuses.
     
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    Different subject. How about a few who are BLM supporters?
     
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    Why should it matter if they're BLM supporters? Want to move the goal posts more? He answered your question. Why do you feel the need to continue to move the goal posts?
     
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    Why? Because the vast majority of blacks support BLM. Asking anyone else would be disingenuous.
     
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    So in your world you can only talk to those that support X cause that you agree with? Anything else is wrong? :rolleyes: God you're getting more and more extreme every time I read your posts.
     
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    The typical libo response. There is always one in every thread.

    White libos who would never want to raise their kids in a black neighborhood or date a black woman lecturing people about knowing black people.
     
  12. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Sure. the average doesn't tell you anything about the individual. But it does tell you something about the group. In this particular case it tells us that genes for aggression are much more common in Blacks than Whites.

    There are many fewer Black geniuses.[/QUOTE]

    Which genes are the genes for aggression?

    So there are fewer black geniuses. So what?
     
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    If the only peoples' opinion you care about on a racial topic is one race of people, maybe you should open your mind up.
     
  14. Patricio Da Silva

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    Your reply is non-sequitur. My comment was perfectly reasonable.
     
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    Maybe you should wake the **** up and not put your foot in your mouth before you know what the conversation is actually about.

    You're late to the party Buri, and you're not even familiar with the conversation.

    ReasonableRob stated there was no such thing as police brutality.

    I suggested that he should ask members of the BLM movement, if anyone's opinion on the matter is relevant to this conversation, it is theirs.

    Your comment is like saying asking someone who was raped regarding an opinion on the subject of rape is racist.

    How many more levels of stupid do you want to take this conversation?
     
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    BLM would be the last people to ask about police brutality. They have a vested interest in exaggerating their victimhood status and so would be unreliable informants.
     
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    I'll help out. There is actually very little police brutality, but primarily overreaction to police giving lawful orders. .I'm not interested in the opinions of the burn-loot-murder gang of racist marxists. They offer nothing but ignorance and their wild imagination about reality fuels comedy.

    There we go, stupidity level 0.
     
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    Rediculous
     
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    You've taken it to even higher levels, given your ignorance.

    That you make that accusation, I can use your logic to say that republicans are murdering bands of white supremist neonazi racist insurrectionist thugs

    But I don't, though you do, so welcome to dumbasstown, you are it's champion.
     
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    Police, and politicians who run on a law and order platform including the entirety of the republican party have a vested interest in exaggerated the victimhood status of cops and their are also unreliable informants of the dangers posed by reform secondary to BLM activism. Any representative or member of special interest group that seeks to increase its political or economic clout are now to be ignored as corrupted sources by this logic yet legislators, commissions, governors and council members most desperately need the testimony and experience of members of these groups to understand the dynamics their 'reform' hopes to change. The list includes gun owners and gun shops, small businessmen, farmers, homeowners, pastors and churches, librarians. We need to ask all these groups whenever we are thinking about either changing policy or refusing to change policy and take the risk of being oversold or misled in order to gain their perspective at all.

    Your point is valid for consideration but its hardly a smart idea to pay no heed to what happens right now or what will happen tomorrow if govt makes a change or fails to make a change. It sure as hell is not unique to BLM or 'leftists;
     
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    Oh, is that so? Your equivalent is not even close. Maybe what you need is a little more information!

    https://blacklivesmatter.com/about/

    this is pretty funny; Rep. Jamaal Bowman’s the COUP Act would require a deep, thorough investigation into the security failures at Capitol Hill during the insurrection. The ties between any Capitol police officer(s) and white supremacy or fascism must come to light…

    here they call trump a white supremacist; January 6th was another dark day in America. People across the country — and the world — watched as white supremacists, incited by the white supremacist-in-chief, Donald Trump, carried out an attack inside our nation’s Capitol…

    here they are angry that jacob blake, know idiot and crime enthusiast, did not get shot legitamently by the police; Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation (BLMGNF) released the following statement in response to a Wisconsin District Attorney deciding that Kenosha police officer Rusten Sheskey will not be charged for his August 23, 2020 shooting of Jacob Blake…

    If you didn't know they were marxist; https://nypost.com/2020/06/25/blm-co-founder-describes-herself-as-trained-marxist/

    OOPS.

    So, that link has some of the funniest and dumbest things I've ever read, enjoy that at your leisure.
     
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    YOu saying that they are all murders looters arsonists.

    Give me break. AS for marxism, THAT is NOT a crime.

    Insurrection is.
     
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    Still,a bunch of racist, commie, thugs and punks.
     
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    It appears that the motive of the BLM organization is to widen the racial divide.
     
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    It's not, black people's disproportionate involvement in violent crime is what keeps them poor and forces the police into conflict with them.
     
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