What Don't You Like About The Gay Community?

Discussion in 'Gay & Lesbian Rights' started by 808state, Jun 13, 2011.

  1. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    there is no single author.

    Do you have an issues with the methodology used in compiling this list?
     
  2. reallybigjohnson

    reallybigjohnson Banned

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    Apparently gay men are misogynistic, at least according to a feminist article I saw posted the other day.

    And what is with the hand waving and the sashaying........seriously. Even some of the gay people I know find "flamers" obnoxious and irritating. Apparently some people feel the need to overact being gay. I didn't even realize this as that is how they are usually portrayed in movies and on TV and I have met a few people who act like that. But in my last uni the discussion came up and apparently many gay people find people like that really annoying.

    nm about the first part. I just looked for the article and it was just Rose McGowan spouting off on twitter.
     
  3. NaturalBorn

    NaturalBorn New Member Past Donor

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    Since you seem certain there is not one author, then who are the authorS?

    My issue is the article is all opinion. Opinions come with biases. What are the facts, not what do folks believe about the facts they analyze or ignore?
     
  4. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    You don't seem too concerned about confirmation bias in the links you posted. And frankly the Frc tends to cherry pick data clusters that support their ends.
     
  5. NaturalBorn

    NaturalBorn New Member Past Donor

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    Where did I claim only your references are biased?

     
  6. Phil

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    I'm glad you asked. I watched Glee from late season one to the end of season four. It was the first entertainment show I watched more than individual episodes since VIP in the late 90s. I watched VIP for straight reasons, enjoyed the humor but stopped watching in the middle of season two when they added a straight but repulsive character.
    The last show I watched before that was a late night serial version of Valley of the Dolls in the early 90s. I watched for straight reasons, but there was a gay couple seen sitting in bed together. It was cancelled after two months as I expected, just as the younger gay man was telling the female braless psychiatrist in a white blouse he had a straight woman showing interest.
    before that I hadn't followed a series since the 70s but even then abandoned favorites when they betrayed their base, such as when the oldest Walton girl announced she was pregnant in 1937 in the series finale and was still pregnant when they jumped to 1940 at the start of the next season.
    When the introduction showed the story was about a gay boy and a pregnant girl I had to watch.
    In season two I discovered I could see missed episodes on the internet and comment on FoxForum. For 10 months they did many things I suggested, deleting some of my posts because they were prophetic. I was responsible for two regular characters who joined in season four and at least two guest stars.
    I couldn't watch after Cory Monteith died but wrote two versions of seasons five and six addressing all relevant issues and honoring even obscure details from early episodes. It's all on my Tumblr blog (Phillipcole).
    It was a long time before I realized the show was written by gays for gays, but it soon became clear that the original gay boy was representing the series creator point for point. He of course needed a lover so they cast the best-looking man alive and also made him a role model. I insisted on a bad gay character and they provided one. (He's playing Flash now.) He repented on his third appearance. He was useless thereafter. In my story he dies off-camera and stays dead even after the girl with the time machine saves hundreds of other lives.
    I've heard that in American Beauty all the straights are dysfunctional, but the gay couple are perfect.
    I made it about 40 minutes into As Good as it Gets and Greg Kinnear seemed like the hero at that point.
    So I don't think I've seen a morally bad gay character, except the three in the two James Bond movies, but all the villains there are ridiculous.
    My point is it doesn't matter your inclinations when you're solving crimes, running from monsters or buying groceries, but if you create a gay character you feel the need to mention it every 10 minutes, and some seem to be living their life as if they had to mention it every 10 minutes.
     
  7. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    There are lies, damned lies and statistics.
    Mark Twain

    Better to error on the side of caution than put children at risk. Just because you don't want the studies similar to the ones I posted to be true does not make them false.

     
  9. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    Problem is the studies you put forward have all been discredited, if you can find one that discredits what I put forward then please do so and link to it.
     
  10. NaturalBorn

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    Discredited, by you? By some homosexual activists? Your worldview is what it is and unless you decide to repent of your sins, you will likely continue in your hedonism. It's your choice.

     
  11. Fugazi

    Fugazi New Member Past Donor

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    nope not by me or by some homosexual activists, by a world renowned university that is ranked 44 out of the top 100 universities in the world . .those are the things you cannot find dispute for, despite being asked to do so.

    Where as your so called evidence has been ripped to pieces for it's misinterpretation, cherry picking and flawed analysis.

    Isn't lying or accepting the lie a sin, perhaps your should remove the plank from your own eye before worrying about the splinter in mine.
     
  12. NaturalBorn

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    Again you claim objectivity and accuracy of your so-called evidence because you found something somebody wrote that somebody else agrees with. Do I have this right?
    Let me ask, do you believe it is acceptable to have sex with underage children because it pleases you and you believe it pleasures the child?

     
  13. Polydectes

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    you failed to prove my source was biased.
     
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    You failed to prove the veracity of your source.
     
  15. Polydectes

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    I sorced an article from UCDavis. You posted an anti gay misrepresentation of data by an organization that has an agenda.

    I posted a reputable source, you did not.
     
  16. Fugazi

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    nope, I posted something that has no biased intent, unless you can show otherwise that is . .so far you haven't been able to do that. If you believe that the items provided are biased in some way then please post your reasoning and evidence to support that .. just as we have done for your posted items.

    Let me ask you what this has to do with the discussion apart from being irrelevant and off topic?

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    Just as you have failed to do. don;t ask of others what you cannot supply yourself.
     
  17. NaturalBorn

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    I am not sure if English is your first language or not, so I'll restate what I wrote earlier, s-l-o-w-l-y so you understand; everyone has a bias based on his worldview. Not just people who believe differently that you, but e-v-e-r-y-o-n-e including people in opur very progressive colleges and those individual who rate them.

    The question about sex with children goes back to our original discussion. I noticed you avoid answering.
     
  18. Polydectes

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    Once the Frc starts training psychologists and psychiatrists that effectively alleviate mental illness perhaps they will gain some credibility. So far all they seem to be is a lobbyist. True everybody is biased, but an organization that does nothing but lobby politicians isn't even in the same league. Plus it misrepresents actual studies to jump to the conclusion that it had before.

    Now since I discredited your source, feel free to attempt to do so with mine. Please avoid fallacy as to save yourself embarrassment.

    What question are you whining about?
     
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    I don't really like the uneasy truce between gays and lesbians. The things that many of them are secretly thinking about the opposite gender that I have run into records of over the years are chilling. They've done a good job of fooling people into thinking that they're normal and just want to get married like straight people generally do but not all of us are fooled.
     
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    What I don't like about the gay community is that every time I turn around a new word had to be invented, like "transphobic". I never once thought I had to be afraid of "trans" (trains maybe, or trannies, or continentals).

    I also don't like the cookies they bake. Too many transfats.
     
  21. Polydectes

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    So what do they think about the opposite gender?
     
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    Now this thread is about to turn entertaining. I can't wait to learn what 'we' think.
     
  23. NaturalBorn

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    So unless someone is affiliated with a business that is involved with education, their opinion is invalid? Is that what you are attempting to claim?
    BTW, until political correctness and the homo-nazis invaded the American Psychiatric Association, homosexuality was classified as a mental disorder. Their opinion was "A" now it is "B" so which one is correct?
     
  24. Polydectes

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    No, stop with the strawman crap, it isn't fooling me. Unless it involves peer reviewed science, it isn't science.
    So there is an unseen conspiracy of homo-Nazis taking over?

    You are now backing up your false cause with paranoid delusions?

    How well was it analyzed to lead them to conclusion "A"?

    What lead the Apa in 1952 to place homosexuality in the DSM to begin with?

    Since you seem to be an expert on mental health you could provide a satisfactory answer.

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    I am genuinely curious of what I am supposed to think, and how I a homo doesn't know and a supposedly "straight" person does.
     
  25. NaturalBorn

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    We seem to agree that everyone has their own biases. Correct?

    You then claim because your referenced links have a second biased review which agrees the the first, any references which do not agree with the first and second reference are invalid? Is that how science in your worldview operates?
     

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