What ever happened to Russian Collusion??

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by not2serious, Oct 12, 2018.

  1. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    :rolleyes: 'We' only know what 'we've' been told?? God this is sooo depressing; neuro-linguist programming works like the proverbial charm.
     
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    Yeah...I'm weird like that. After reviewing multiple sources, reading data from professionals, researching ulterior possibilities and verifying validity I usually form opinion of veracity. Unfortunately my mind does not simply allow talking point simplicity to direct it.....probably attributed to the corruption induced by knowledge, which you obviously have escaped the tendrils of.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Think 'State manipulation of the mainstream media', and 'baubles for senior editors of the MSM for services rendered'? You're an adult - how can you be so naive?
     
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  4. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You do know who currently runs the state, correct? I assume you are also aware of what the term "Free Press" implies but making any assumption involving rational thought or intellectual prowess in your case is questionable at best.
     
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    Others are blinded by their partisan delusions. Works both ways.
     
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    Pretty much everything we see on the mainstream media, ESPECIALLY Russian collusion/Russiagate, is smoke & mirrors, pure theater. Hillary lost, and it wasn't the Russians' fault.
     
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    So anything "we're told" (including that there is no collusion) is not true?

    Ummm you need to work on your logic...or lack of
     
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    If his enterprise were criminal then that would be appropriate. But it isn't.
     
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    I will wake you up when the news come in.
     
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    Possibly even Rod Rosenstein has been a bit unhappy that his political hit man Mueller has been doing nothing but the equivalent of indicting ham sandwiches from the get go, and so he's told Mueller; "No more delicatessen raids. Unless you have a Trump/Russia smoking gun that you can PROVE and that's even more significant than the obvious collusion between Hillary Clinton and Fusion GPS and Steele and Russia, then cool it!"
     
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    Like most fairy tales it just faded away. Other than a little by the Clinton campaign and the DNC there never was any Russian collusion.
     
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    His investigation of Russian collusion has been effectively over for months.
     
  13. Lee Atwater

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    No it isn't.

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/11/politics/trump-lawyers-preparing-answers-mueller-questions/index.html

    (CNN)President Donald Trump's legal team is preparing answers to written questions provided by special counsel Robert Mueller, according to sources familiar with the matter.

    The move represents a major development after months of negotiations and signals that the Mueller investigation could be entering a final phase with regard to the President.
    The questions are focused on matters related to the investigation of possible collusion between Trump associates and Russians seeking to meddle in the 2016 election, the sources said. Trump's lawyers are preparing written responses, in part relying on documents previously provided to the special counsel, the sources said.
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    Collusion/conspiracy with the Russians is still a central part of the investigation.
     
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    You wish.
     
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    Speaking of collusion/conspiracy......................

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    On Jun 3, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Rob Goldstone wrote:

    Good morning

    Emin just called and asked me to contact you with something very interesting.

    The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.

    This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump - helped along by Aras and Emin.

    What do you think is the best way to handle this information and would you be able to speak to Emin about it directly?

    I can also send this info to your father via Rhona, but it is ultra sensitive so wanted to send to you first.

    Best

    Rob Goldstone

    On Jun 3, 2016, at 10:53, Donald Trump Jr. wrote:

    Thanks Rob I appreciate that. I am on the road at the moment but perhaps I just speak to Emin first. Seems we have some time and if it's what you say I love it especially later in the summer. Could we do a call first thing next week when I am back?

    Best,

    Don
     
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    whenever you see this, you can be certain of one thing... 'fake news'
     
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    Trump is in so much trouble that Hillary lost her security clearance. I think the dems are looking the wrong way.
     
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    Is this a new set of questions or is CNN just a year or so behind the times? If new questions you have no idea whatsoever they are about. Furthermore, unless they are drastically different from last year's questions -- highly unlikely, you are 180 degrees wrong. Then there were about 48 questions made known, and only about 5 or 6 having to do with Russian collusion.
     
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    Russia is not on the Establishment team = they compete with the interests of the international financiers and national Oligarchs that pull the strings.

    We then need to make things up from time to time or make frivolous allegations in order to demonize Russia and justify imposition of sanctions/punishment.

    The Establishment agenda also includes maintaining control over the mind of the raging masses. This internet revolution is getting out of hand. The people are getting access to too much information - some of which is conflicting with State Propaganda and various "Necessary Illusions" that help to control thought in a way that keeps the people from doing something crazy like voting "anti Establishment" - voting for the person rather than Red or Blue. The status quo must be maintained - and voting Red or Blue on the basis of partisan rhetoric does this.

    Russian "Meddling" was used as justification for censorship of the "mainstream Internet" MSI :)
     
  20. Lee Atwater

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    Yikes. Refusing to stay abreast of the moves Mueller is making in the ongoing investigation in to collusion/conspiracy doesn't change the facts. Yes, the questions are recent and yes they are in part about collusion/conspiracy.

    I'm very sorry if that doesn't fit with the lying narrative right wing media has been feeding you lately but..........there it is.
     
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    Republican leaders - Ryan and McConnell among them - believe the intelligence that russia hacked into the election.
     
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    I just had not heard about the new round of questions. I would not be surprised if these questions were, completely unlike the first round, predominately, maybe exclusively, about Russian collusion. It is highly likely that Trump's team have said any question other than about Russian collusion is completely off the table and a show stopper -- as they should if they have any sense. So how many questions are there? Three???
     
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    How about because it never existed in the first place! This was a conspiracy from the get go. I hope for the sake of the country that everyone who broke laws is held accountable!
     
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    Muellers invstigation has been over for a while now. It is now about job security not collusion.
     
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    I'll happily bet any one the price of a nice steak dinner ($50.00) that the Mueller's investigation has not been over for a while.
     
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