What Happens If Religion Is Proved False?

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  1. sdelsolray

    sdelsolray Well-Known Member

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    Please define "knowledge".
     
  2. Frank

    Frank Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why should I?
     
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    sdelsolray Well-Known Member

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    OK. Let me try it this way.

    Your statement: "Any definitive statements about what exists in the REALITY of existence...and what does not exist in it...are faith based. They are blind guesses about the great unknown."

    Based on your statement, it would appear that all knowledge is faith based and is formed from "blind guesses".

    Care to comment?
     
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    Frank Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is absolutely NOTHING in my statement to indicate that "all knowledge is faith based."

    NOTHING!

    So...

    ...try again.
     
  5. sdelsolray

    sdelsolray Well-Known Member

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    OK.

    Please define "knowledge".

    Two other questions:

    1) Is your statement, "NOTHING in my statement...indicate that 'all knowledge is faith based'" a "definitive statement about what exists in the REALITY of existence"?

    2) Is your statement, "NOTHING in my statement...indicate that 'all knowledge is faith based'" itself merely "faith based" or a "blind guess"?
     
  6. Frank

    Frank Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I ask again: Why should I?

    Two other questions:



    Not at all. What is your game playing about?



    Neither. It is an assessment of the truth.

    What is your game playing about?

    Have you run out of things to say?
     
  7. RiaRaeb

    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your the one playing games again Frank, what's wrong with you defining knowledge, you want others to answer your questions but will not answer theirs.
     
  8. sdelsolray

    sdelsolray Well-Known Member

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    You've already hoisted yourself on your own petard. Please continue with your semantics, obfuscation and passive-aggressive behavior, if that is your pleasure. But do try to make it more entertaining. You need work on that part.
     
  9. Swensson

    Swensson Devil's advocate

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    Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying these changes will take place because it's religion that has changed. Similar things happened after the fall of the Soviet union, Roman empire and many other occasions. Chaos turns up pretty much anywhere where there's a quick change in what's important politically. This example would just be more global.
    Yes, when it comes to borders, I primarily think of the Middle East and Africa.
    Many of the bad features of religion can be found in nationalisms, separatisms, various socialist ideas and other ideologies around the world. With the loss of religion a few new ones would spring up.

    I am of the belief that the fundamental reasons for most conflicts (even religious conflicts) are not religious. Religion just happens to be so flexible and powerful that various opinion makers have bent it to their will. If you remove the religion, maybe the fundamental reasons would be brought forward, or maybe other justifications would be produced. Point being that the fundamental reasons will still be there if you remove religion, and very little will have been gained.
    So, yeah, I believe we're getting the cart before the horse here. I don't believe religions split people (well, they do too, but that's not the biggest problem), I believe that when people are truly split about something, they are able to interpret their religions to side with them.
     
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    MRogersNhood Banned

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    Yes,it would go south at warp speed.

    Just look at how the "indoctrinated with non-religion" youth are doing in America for the last generation.

    Downward spiraling.
     
  11. Frank

    Frank Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When you asked me your question...I HAD NOT USED THE WORD KNOWLEDGE.

    Why are you asking me to define a word I had not used?

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    Interesting post.

    What does it have to do with the topic of the thread?
     

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