What happens in the bedroom - man charged with incest

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  1. hiimjered

    hiimjered Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A man was charged with incest for a consensual relationship with his adult daughter.

    Both participants were adults and the relationship was apparently voluntary. How can we claim that the state should stay out of the bedroom when it comes to what homosexuals do, but the state can go ahead and press charges for incest that happens in the bedroom?

    Either it is acceptable for the state to condemn both, or neither is something the state should be able to condemn. The hypocritical policy that we have now where some acts by consensual adults are beyond the state's authority and other aren't is not acceptable.
     
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    People will accept incest in time, just not yet.
     
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    Were they both of age at the start of the relationship? I didn't see the age of the girl mentioned.
     
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    Incest pollutes the genetic pool with inbreeding, which is a danger to everyone. That's why incest is illegal.
     
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    In another article it is mentioned she was 24 at the start of the relationship
     
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    Ah. I'm on my mobile so i didnt open up the link.
    That being the case, I think it's ridiculous they'd call her the victim.
     
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    She is the victim, she was seduced by her own father. Anyone who's ever been in a family knows that the father-daughter relationship is not an equal relationship. The father took advantage of the trust his daughter had in him, and the power he had over her, and abused it. He should go to jail, and for a long time.
     
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    That's provided they engage in intercourse.
     
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    Lol, wasn't that the hack bombing on Palin, then it turns out he (*)(*)(*)(*)ing his own daughter. He's still teaching at Columbia, which surprises me in the least.
     
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    Not often I agree with you Blackrook,, but I do in this case.

    I once read an article which said a woman's development has a lot to do with her relationship with her father. A poor relationship with her father can be detrimental to the woman an entire life time.

    By the way, I'm the father of two wonderful young adult women. I value my relationship with my daughters above anything.
     
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    The Idea of incest is rather sick, and the act not something I can support....But, That is just my opinion and not a reason to justify prosecution. If indeed this was a reltionship agreed upon by two adult participants it should be left alone.

    I cannot in tell the Government to stay out of the bedroom, and then ask them to walk back in.
     
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    Yep, next on the agenda: "Man has sex with corpse. We shouldn't prosecute because dead person consented before perishing"
     
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    Exactly how, would a corpse, goat, child, unconscious person, Comatose patient......or whatever you come up with next manage to express consent?

    Extrapolation leads to disinformation...and is a poor excuse for debate.
     
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    That only matters if they actually produce offspring, and even then the chances of their offspring having a defect are less than 10% and the odds of a debilitating defect are much lower.

    The odds of two parents who have a recessive sickle cell trait or tay-sachs trait having a child with that disease are 25%. Should we then outlaw marriage between any two people with recessive diseases.

    Or do we just outlaw incest because we find it icky?
     
  15. hiimjered

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    Perhaps, but she was still a 24 year old adult when this started. She was old enough to make her own decisions.
     
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    We don't. The concept of "the state staying out of the bedroom" is a lie, spouted by people on both extremes of the homosexuality debate because they're too stupid or lazy to make a real argument. Nobody in their right mind truly believes that either absolutely everything or absolutely nothing "in the bedroom" should be legislated by the state.

    If that's the only two options you accept, which do you support? Are you arguing for all or nothing?
     
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    If incest is wrong, the British monarchy doesn't wanna be right.
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    She was 24 years old and therefore an adult and as far as I can tell she was capable of freely choosing to have sex with her father.

    I see nothing wrong with it.
     
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    The premise of this post are not factual. The state doesn't legislate what two homosexual consenting adults do in their bedroom. The current issue regarding homosexuals is over marriage and civil unions.

    This is just another variation of the "homo marriage will lead to pedophilia and bestiality" idiot argument.

    The legal issue of the state criminalizing sex between consenting, adult relatives has nothing to do with issue of marriage.
     
  20. hiimjered

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    So you don't remember the legal battles that led to the Lawrence v. Texas ruling? You don't remember the huge battle that led up to that point? Prior to that ruling, the gay rights activists were all rallying against the sodomy laws. It is that argument that I'm talking about, not the current discussion about gay marriage. (That is also why this thread is in the opinion section instead of the current events section.)

    For years the rallying cry of the pro-homosexual left was "Get out of the bedroom." It is hypocritical to only apply that to homosexuals and not give the same support to any consensual adult acts in the bedroom.
     
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    I might have misread you're intention, I think it was equating it strictly with homosexuality. "Get the state out of the bedroom" applies to everyone, not just H's. It might have been better to just say "non related consenting adults".
     
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    Genetic problems warrant society controlling such a relationship.

    The moral aspects can be argued forever.
     
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    Better stop having those handicap people from having a loving relationship because their spawn will pollute the Human population!

    /sarcasm
     
  24. Johnny-C

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    I get the sarcasm. But a few people who are handicapped compared with possibly MILLIONS of father/daughter, mother/son relationships barely compares.
     
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    Oh gross..................
     

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