What happens when Venezuelan troops starve?

This is the Leftist mind:
1 - USA accepts Venezuelan oil because of the humanitarian issue.
Leftists say that USA just wants the oil.

2 - USA reject Venezuelan oil to protest socialist treatment of people
Leftist say the USA wants to destabilize Venezuela and take the oil.

I understand that the Left said that Bush Jnr "invaded Iraq to get the oil."
Whereas in fact Iraqi oil now goes to China and France - not USA. Did
the Left learn anything from this singular dimensional, class envy, cliched,
ideological Marxist assessment of Iraq? Nope.

 

Im not a leftist...Im in Australia...I dont favour any US party...IVe just finished reading
"The New Confessions of an Economic Hitman" and I know that America is rotten to the core....

 

As long as there is a single grain of rice in the whole country the army will be fed. Millions will starve before Maduro lets the military.

 

The US's intent is indeed to starve the people of Venezuela but as people have mentioned here that is unlikely to be the troops. It will as usual be the poor and vulnerable the US manages to kill.

The Red Cross has expressed its concern about the US trying to use the desperate situation of the people of Venezuela for its political gain and hence harming the people by stopping them getting desperate needed supplies which they are prepared to give ...that is genuine humanitarian aid without any attempt of regime change


https://www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/world/red-cross-warns-u-s-about-risks-of-sending-aid-to-venezuela

 

Really? Then why has America been trying to get food aid through to the
Venezuelans for so long? Please explain who in America is trying to starve
the Venezuelans? Name names, and provide evidence.
Sure, we know that Russia and China are propping up a government which
is starving its people - and why? Oil and influence - and Venezuela isn't
even paid for this oil, unlike US dollars which flowed into the Venezuelan
economy all these years and kept people alive.

 

With sanctions.. when you have strict sanctions, humanitarian aid is an oxymoron for assistance

 

In this case, no.
The operative word was "targeted sanctions"
Target was the Maduro govt.. Not all of his govt, just those
deemed to be responsible for the misery, or involved in
corruption, narcotics etc..
(Hugo Chávez's daughter is reportedly a billionaire)

It's only now that the USA has choked off Venezuela's oil
lifeline. Until now the Americans didn't want to do this because
it would effect the population too much.

 

So tell me, will the CIA assassinate Maduro, like they assassinated Roldos and Torrijos (Panama)
and create their own leader....

 

They have already tried three assassination attempts and the Opposition one. One of them was with drones and a Magazine had already been printed with 'After Maduro' on the front page but he was still alive!

 

I don't think so.
More's the pity because when you see what Communism/Socialism
did to nations like Russia, China, North Korea etc.. That no-one did
anything about Monsters like Lenin, Stalin and Mao, when they could
have, could be construed as complicity in their crimes. Indeed, look
at pictures of Roosevelt with Stalin and Nixon with Mao. American
leaders treated these two as statesmen instead of the mass murderers
they were.

 

So the Americans flew a toy drone at Maduro?
News reports made it sound amateurish.
My understanding is that American military drones are quite lethal.
They certainly terrify the Taliban.
How come they didn't pull it off?

 

Well, the grenade they dropped killed ten soldiers.
I think the fact that the assassination failed makes the target more able to be manipulated, dont
you agree....

 

Each regime bases its power on the military and the other security agencies, and therefore does its best to do it better or better than the rest of the population!
If that fails, the countdown is ticking ...

And please ... to all sides here in the forum ... I'm tired of reading when the "Anti West / US / EU / NATO & Co." Faction in the forum People like Maduro putting on a halo and presenting him as a victim and of course all media reports that do not present him as such a victim as a bad media insult!
I'm also tired of reading the other faction here, who quite rightly criticizes Maduro, but in other places of this world falls into total blindness, where the same scum is in power, but friend of one.

 

Conspiracy theory talk, with zero evidence, let
alone proof.
Lots of Venezuelan military want Maduro dead.
Left to the Americans the job would have been done.
But of course, the Americans understand that killing
Maduro achieves certain negative things:
1 - Blaming America
2 - Cause second in command to step up to the plate
3 - Turn army and civilians against America
4 - Strengthens the govt..

 

Yes, but holding new elections is the obvious right thing to do.

 

And what will be the result of new elections?
The peace loving democratic peoples collective
of Venezuela have decisively, with one voice,
opposed American Imperialism and Capitalism.

 

The people will decide the result. The voter turnout last time was 46%, and the result was rejected by the EU, the Organization of American States, the US, Australia etc due to issues with the election process and schedules.

New elections should be held and monitored by international agencies.

 

The US and Europe have no right to tell another sovereign country when it is to have elections. They have no right to believe they rule them and can tell them what to do. The elections were seen by International Observers to be free and fair. The decision to boycott them by the Opposition is believed to have come from the US. The intent being to do what is being done now - to try and claim Maduro is a dictator and unfair elections. Now quite funny but not all of the opposition did boycott them. Several I hear did stand including one who was very well liked, Henri Falcan. It is widely suggested that if the opposition had supported him, he might have won and Venezuela would now have an 'Opposition' President. I guess he must also not have been the sort the US want in 'their' Venezuela. The Opposition are many different groups and though I hear they all support Neo Liberalism they are of very different Character. The one the US has chosen particularly known for its violence. I hear the US put sanctions on the opposition candidate Falcan for putting himself up for the Presidency.

https://venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/14305

Apart from that Maduro got 31% of the electorate voting for him. Trump only had 25% of the US electorate voting for him so please tell me why you believe the US and Europe have the right to say when Venezuela ought to have elections?

 

They will no longer have to be paid in toilet paper.


Venezuelan army pay day.
Soldiers being paid in toilet paper.

 

"not in this case"... that's how sanctions work... they squeeze the poor so they can rise up and revolt... in every case

Even when individuals are sanctioned it filters down to the bottom

 

We didn't starve in Yugoslavia during the heaviest sanctions and flaming war. I hardly believe that people of Venezuela will starve.
There will be shortages of different articles for sure, and every day life must be adapted to the situation, but mass starvation is just a lie or at least exaggeration.

If a war breaks out maybe starvation can be talked about in different areas where there are sieges, battles etc.
People usually help others during hard times.

 

And what will be the result of new elections?
The peace loving democratic peoples collective
of Venezuela have decisively, with one voice,
opposed American Imperialism and Capitalism.

 

Maybe. But it's important to understand the motive for the sanction
and the effort made to protect people not involved in the issue at
hand. I applaud America for that.

As an aside. The "peace movement" said that there should not be
military action against Iraq after it invaded Kuwait. (No protest about
that invasion, of course - only America is militarist and imperialist.)
Instead there should be sanctions.
The West dutifully applies sanctions to Iraq. People starve (a lot of
this was contrived by the Iraqis to end the sanctions of course) and
then the "peace movement" denounced America for its sanctions.

Can you not see the immense and damaging hypocrisy of the Left?

 

I think you are missing your own hypocrisy... thinking you're doing a good thing all the while starving the population with sanctions.... and for reasons you don't even understand

 

This is Venezuela today. No, not sanctions (these came
against the govt in response to Marxist policies)
Hunger is part and parcel of every Marxist society, with
the exception of the ruling pigs. Take a look at photos
of Maduro, Mao, Stalin --- and look at their peasants.