What if life does begin at conception?

Oh my...I had forgotten who you are.


Have A Nice Day

 

Yet only by dehumanizing them, can the claim be made that their rights are overridden by any the ZEF might have. You have to dehumanize women in order to take away their right to do their body as they wish. No dehumanizing is needed to say that the ZEF cannot take from another's body, what the other does not wish to give.

 

I stipulate women are human beings, persons, babies in the womb from conception through all the various stages of human life, I can't be more clear. Do you agree?

I can't sell a kidney does that make me a non-human? I can sell my body for sex, does that make me a non-human?

 

Then who were you directing it at and why?

 

It isn't worth arguing against. There is no common sense in the argument. Giving different names to human development steps doesn't make any of the steps anything other than human steps. Common sense. No excuses or arguments necessary. Sorry.

 

Yours is the convoluted argument, not mine. I think things humans are humans no matter the developmental stage. Same for racoons and whales.

 

I would need a coherent against what common sense tells me and I haven't read one yet.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
WHY do you think Pro-Choice people need to dehumanize the fetus?
NO one said a human fetus wasn't human EVER.
It's fine with me if it's aborted , I know exactly what it is.

I also know exactly what rights women have to their own bodies.

The Anti-Choicers who claim the fetus has more rights than the woman it's in are trying to dehumanize women to the level of cattle.

So you can't address posts you quote ??? gee, sad...must not have an answer .

 

You have said nothing sensible - and continue to blubber nonsense and live in denial rather than address the facts.

 

And you are correct in your thoughts. Everything that is you is human....blood, toenail clippings, even the hair on the floor when you go to a barber. Being human is a designation like Dog, Pig, Elephant or bird. The ZEF is obviously a human Zygote, Embryo or Fetus which goes without saying. When you jack off or have sex you ejaculate human sperm vs. whale sperm and when a baby is born its a human baby.
It then has other designations such as infant, toddler, child....whatever, these are not relevant to an abortion debate or procedure and are generally used to create emotional reaction to attempt distraction....bad form. Now is usually the point where you move on to the "Personhood" gambit so go ahead and start.

 

The abortion debate is about killing humans or killing something else. For you it is something else. You believe what you believe. I think you are wrong. You think I am wrong. Pretty pointless to argue semantics over something as serious as this.

 

Could you actually show proof that anyone said a human fetus is not human?

I doubt it...

What some posters "believe" is irrelevant.... a human fetus is human, that's a FACT not a belief........and I have never seen anyone say otherwise...

So who TF are you arguing with?

 

Unless you also protest every war, every execution, every overdose and every child that starves to death you are being extremely hypocritical and dishonest about your motivation in this. In fact you would be rather ignorant and cruel as you seem not to care about a Human Being in preference of defending human cellular life.

 

I'm a troll for disagreeing with you. Am I also a racist?

 

Ignorant, cruel, troll. I guess I should have myself banished and put in chains. You don't tolerate opposing opinions very well do you?

 

Don't doubt it for long. The entire issue is rifled with jousting over which pregnancy week or trimester is OK for killing a fetus. Younger fetuses are subject to be killed while more mature ones are exempt according to some. If you haven't seen the With whom are you arguing?

 

You are a Troll because you continuously ignore provided data, play on emotions, repeat the same diatribe and purposefully try to get reaction.

 

They are not "Younger Fetus" they are a Zygote or Embryo, you again try to play the emotion game and Ignore provided data.

 

Actually I just respond to posts like yours and others. Data has no meaning in the subject. Data doesn't decide what is human and what is not. I repeat the same diatribe in argument against your diatribe. You haven't said a single thing meets the common sense test for me. You are a troll.

 

Seriously...everyone has already agreed on the "Human" aspect you keep repeating and the Data is THE ONLY THING we have to define debate...Perhaps you are less a troll and actually something worse that I cannot state without infraction.

 

Oh my. He was about to descend into personal insults. Well I would view the "something worse" as fairly insulting to be honest.

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
Could you actually show proof that anyone said a human fetus is not human?

I doubt it...

What some posters "believe" is irrelevant.... a human fetus is human, that's a FACT not a belief........and I have never seen anyone say otherwise...

So who TF are you arguing with?

Could you actually show proof that anyone said a human fetus is not human?


NO, YOU CAN'T....and you didn't.

Just like any other Anti-Choicer you could NOT provide proof that anyone said a human fetus was not human.