What is fascism...

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Golem, Apr 25, 2022.

  1. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Oh, so you meant to say: there are other issues of discrimination among fascists. You could have just said that.
     
  2. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Well my description says nothing about 'injury.' But are you saying that it would only not be protected by the 1st A if it resulted in an injury?
     
  3. Kode

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    If you would give me your email address in a PM I would be happy to submit my future posting ideas to you for you to reword and make satisfactory to you.
     
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    Fascism is just another form of unjust totalitarianism, which is marked by Totalitarians putting forward a politicized premise for 'debate' and then trying to deplatform anyone who challenges their premise.
     
  5. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yes! Like DeSantis did in Florida with Disney.
     
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    Well Disney claimed they would force the ELECTED State Legislature to recant legislation end the grooming of K-3rd graders. So you are all for Corporations getting special carve-outs as long as they push the politics of Totalitarianism? You do know that controlling society through the corporations was the essence of Italian Fascism?
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Disney can't force CRAP. Private businesses are not government. Only DeSantis can. Because he IS government. And he infringed their 1st A right. And the extreme right has been desperately (albeit unsuccessfully) to grasp at some sort of straw that would justify this clear example of fascism.

    YOU gave the definition, and now you try to walk away from YOUR definition because it compromises one of your heroes.

    This is one more example of how right-winer "ideology" is flexible when it comes to their political deities. But not very intellectually honest, I must say.
     
  8. Zorro

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    As they now know.
    Then they should find the nearest courtroom and make that case.
    Disney has no inherent right to be a self-governing entity, but, if they want to make that claim, then they should file suit.
     
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    Here's more Fascism.

    JONATHAN TURLEY: In Democrats’ incessant prosecution of Trump, progressives ignore free speech rights.

    'One of the most telling moments came in a congressional hearing in February when I warned of the dangers of repeating the abuses of prior periods like the Red Scare, when censorship and blacklisting were the norm. In response, Rep. Dan Goldman, D-New York, invoked Oliver Wendell Holmes’ view that free speech does not give a person the right to yell fire in a crowded theater. In other words, citizens had to be silenced because their views are dangerous to others.'

    'When I attempted to point out that the line came from a case justifying the imprisonment of socialists for their political viewpoints, Goldman cut me off and “reclaimed his time.”'

    'Other Democrats have used the line as a mantra, despite its origins in one of our most abusive anti-free speech periods during which the government targeted political dissidents on the left.'

    The worm will turn back on them.
     
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  10. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    They don't need your legal advice. They will! And we Floridians will end up paying the bill. That's how DeSantis uses our tax money to play politics.

    Fortunately for the country, the fascist's national career is pretty much over after his las debacle in the debate. Because it would have been the whole country paying with taxes for the fascist's political nonsense.
     
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    Fake News. Governor DeSantis is working with legislative authorization.
     
  12. garyd

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    There is no such thing as hate speech. You start down that road and what constitutes hate speech changes every time the sign on the mayors office changes.
     
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    BS. We are already paying hugely for the left replacing the three 'r's with gender studies, ego messaging and race hatred.
     
  14. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Hah! I've seen many arguments. Some have claimed that hate speech is protected, others that it shouldn't be criminalized. But you go all in with "there is no such thing". That goes way beyond denying reality. But, of course, you live in your own little cozy make-believe world and nobody will ever bring you out to the real world, so...
     
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    As per usual you miss the point hate speech codes are antithetical to free speech and by definition constitute a priori censorship. You can have hate speech or you can have free speech you can not have both. Almost by defintion such speech codes are Fascistic in fact they cannot be other wise.
     

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