What is it you hate about Obama?

what do you believe would have been helping the black community?

 

Actually TARP was signed into law by President Bush, not by Senator Obama.

By the time Obama entered the White House the global financial institutions have already been saved.

But there's more.

Sen. Obama helped create the mess President Obama 'inherited'

All too often, I hear that President Barack Obama inherited this economic mess that we're in right now. Let's get the story straight for a change. He helped create this mess. In 2005, President Bush tried to push legislation through Congress to place regulations on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Mr. Bush knew that these organizations' policies involving the lending of mortgage money to those that couldn't afford it were going to cripple the economy if not regulated. It was the efforts of Democratic Sen. Christopher Dodd and Democratic Rep. Barney Frank, accompanied by Sen. Barack Obama, that were successful in blocking these regulations by threatening to filibuster. Senator Obama was a major recipient of campaign funds from Fannie and Freddie. If you don't believe me, look it up. -> http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/op...s-ed-obama-economy-letter-20120618-story.html


And there's more, going back to 1995...

 

If he committed fraud it would be on record. You’re talking about ALLEGED fraud. People allege Trump is a racist Nazi or OBama is a sleeper cell Muslim or never attended Harvard. Doesn’t make it true.

We all have the right to look at every year of Trumps taxes the same day Obama releases his college transcript. We have no right to any of it. It would be nice to see though.

 

Your complete and utter failure to even address the FACTS provided says volumes.

 

You alleged that he never addressed those topics but the record of his speeches clearly demonstrates that he did. I can go even further and show you the actual programs that he implemented to ensure both education and jobs were available which were the actions to back up his words.

Obama didn't brag about a lot of the things that he did but that doesn't mean that he didn't do them.

 

If you want to show me some programs he implemented, I'll read your links.

Perhaps I am just an "out of the box" kind of guy. I look at places like Chicago, St Louis, Detroit, and New Orleans, and I tend to think in terms of taking a radical departure from failed programs and good intentions. I don't know ... perhaps I expected to much from Obama. But he was in a unique position to address this with both carrots and sticks, encouragement and admonition, approval and disapproval, and no one could accuse him of being racist. A white leader cannot do this. It is not allowed.

As a politically astute person, as one who hangs out on this site a lot, you know all the statistics about the black community. All the stuff about education, income, unemployment, crime, imprisonment, drugs, murder, violence, and family dysfunction. I need not explain it. And what I see is a segment of our American population that is in crisis, or, at least, struggling. And as I look at this, the political establishment on both sides of the aisle frustrates me. Conservatives tend to just ignore it all, both politically and physically by simply moving away from it. They are not allowed to discuss it, so they don't. White liberals, on the other hand, seem to consume themselves with self-loathing and guilt (as if that changes anything), while self-righteously pointing fingers at everyone else and flailing about searching for racism. Consequently, you see them obsessing about a teensy weensy little segment of our society who are KKK types and symbols such as confederate monuments and flags. They see racism everywhere and allege that being white, employed, and law-abiding is by default proof of "inherent" white racism. Now I'm not defending confederate flags or KKK types, but how does any of that lift up a young black person in Detroit? The answer is that it doesn't. You can protest the KKK all day long and tear down every last confederate monument in the country, and it changes nothing about the life of that young black person in Detroit. Nothing! None of that makes his or her chances for success in life any better. So on this topic, the progressives frustrate me with all their hot air just as much as the conservatives do with their passivity.

I guess I sort of see that community - especially in some of these terrible cities - as needing an intervention - with new ideas, new leadership, with an emphasis on safety, positive life choices, education, and some economic structural changes that promote new opportunity.

I suppose I see nice speeches and passive government programs as not enough. As opposed to a government program that "is available", I think the time has come for kinetic action, more like a rescue operation or an intervention.

But, in the present atmosphere, no white person may suggest such a thing, much less lead it. It would have to be a black person, and Obama was black and the President of the United States.

So that's all for now. It's getting late, and I've got to get to bed so I can get up and carry out my "inherently racist" act of going to work tomorrow ...

Seth

 

Thanks for proving facts and libs are never friends.

 

Yes, apparently you missed them all.

Go look them up and you'll have your answer.

lol

 

lets test your bs. Who had more executive experience going into the presidency. Obama or Trump. Let the fibbing begin.

 

Your BLOTUS would never achieved the status of executive in corporate America purely on his own abilities.

 

Trying to convince people who hate Obama simply because he exists that he was a good President is a fool's errand.

What I have yet to see in this thread is anything that explains the HATRED these right wingers have for Obama.

That WAS the topic I believe

 

and the fibbing has begun. As all can see, exactly as I predicted.
No one achieves anything on their own in modern society...dont you remember dems you didnt build that mantra you all agreed with? but you forgot to answer the question or did you dodge it because you cant answer honestly?

 

So much for "bootstraps" huh?

It's all about nepotism and the Old Boy network huh

Thanks for the admission

 

Asinine deflection followed by puerile ad hom exposes the vacuity of your position.

 

lol. mmmkay...another lefty that cant admit reality. Obama had 0 executive experience. zippo, zilch, nada, none...goose egg...Trump had more executive experience going into the Presidency than most presidents before him. He is far more qualified than Obama and it shows. Face it, you guys are pissed because what hes doing is working. I woke up today to find his tax on foreign solar is generating thousands and thousands of jobs for America...plus making it greener. Id love to hear why you think hes wrong about that...you know given your experience running your fortune 500 company. What was it again?

 

youre the one dodging the question not me. Who had more exec experience...obama or Trump? Dodge again for me, it makes my morning coffee better.

 

Good president? Here is what happened on his watch:

8 years of Syrian civil war, ISIS capturing half the middle east and murdering hundreds of thousands. Russia, China flexing their muscle, capturing correspindingly parts of Ukraine and disputed islands, Obama's red lines were laughed at and routinely crossed, his requests and proposals were ignored...

The economy was ok, not great but ok... Obamacare was an unmitigated disaster, the debt doubled, the gap between the rich and the rest drastically increased, so did the number of people below the poverty line.

The country became more polarized, he weaponized and politicized the IRS and law enforcement, rampant unchecked illegal immigration, gender inequality ...

But he was big on transgender bathrooms.

 

And your hatred of Obama is because in your opinion he had too little "executive" experience?

That makes sense to you?

 

Your asinine question is based upon an entirely fallacious assumption.

What you should have asked is which of them demonstrated the leadership qualities necessary to be president?

That is what actually matters because the presidency is not anything like running a corporation.

But BLOTUS supporters don't know that which is why they ask inane trivialities to hide the BLOTUS's glaring shortcomings and failure to perform.

 

Do they even have an IRS in Kazakhstan? Or do they just take whatever they want?

How does it work in Russia?

 

no my hatred of Obama stems from his actions both before during and after his presidency. So do intend on answering the question factually or are you planning more strawmans?

 

*sips coffee...basks in the enjoyment of the leftist dodging a straight up on topic question.*
mmm delicious.

 

As always libs heads explode the moment their platitudes and bumper stickers meet hard facts.

 

also...please read the thread it wasnt my fallacious assumption. Heres a lefties comment I responded to

"And we have never seen anyone so unqualified for the presidency as Trump!"
Im waiting for one of you on the left to back up that claim. So far you all dodged.

 

And those actions are?