What Is Your Political Philosophy?

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  1. danielpalos

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    Yes, levying troops is a form of Tax on the populace. It requires government in the form of central planning and income transfers to accomplish.

    Usually, yes; if you are in business it is only due to the stability of States and statism. True AnCaps are even more rare than communism.
     
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    No it doesn't.
    You're diverting from point. Which if you remember was that a levy wasn't necessary when people volunteered.
    And I didn't say that it wasn't a form of government. I said that it was governance without tax.
    No. I don't think you've quite grasped this.
    In Kowloon there was an enclave of people which did not have any authority from the government rendered unto them.
    Establishing a business in such an area didn't require government approval.
    If you really want another example of where this is so then I suggest you look up Somalia.

    If I were to judge from the way you write I'd say that you have Aspergers syndrome or Autism.
     
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    How does that work for the Militia of the United States? At some point, they may be federalized.

    Limited government doesn't mean no government. The city is on the site of a former fort. AnCaps are more rare than communism.
     
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    I'm not referring to the US.
    Now believe it or not many societies didn't actually pay for their soldiers equipment.
    For the Roman Empire expected it's soldiers to do so, until the Marian reforms or Ancient Greek warriors whose class was also denoted by the type of soldier they were.
    So a Hoplite was someone who was middle class whereas a Peltast was someone poorer.
    In fact this was the case throughout much of the world until the late 1600's
    There was no government. It's that simple.
    So? It doesn't mean that is a part of the government.
    You admit it.
    Good
    This means that government is not an indispensable necessity.
     
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    I agree to disagree; we are simply not moral enough for free for socialism to work and capitalism needs capital based morals for a price.

     
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    So you've never heard of people volunteering for things or people offering their services for free?
    Because I've done it.
     
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    Maybe for essential services; but not politics.
     
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    The Knyaz example was a pretty good example of how a leader could work without taxation.
    Maybe Jose Mujica would be a more modern example.
    He earns about £7,500 per annum most of which is donated to charity while he lives off his farm and I would imagine the remaining 10% of his income is spent on fuel for his car.

    Without the modern requirement for a vehicle then realistically he would be working for free.
     
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    So, you know how to engage in special pleading; do you have a point or do you want to continue until you engage in a fallacy of composition due to your special pleading.
     
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    I am a Libertarian. I believe in Natural Law which dictates that all people are equal in their right to live their life in the pursuit of their own happiness with the only caveat being that they cannot act in any way which infringes on the right of his neighbors to do the same.

    I believe that government is inheritantly evil in that it in its nature aggressive and rule by force, and therefore needs to be restricted to a very minimum. Government is and always has been a tool of the wealthy to exploit the working classes and to insure a perpetual slave class.
     
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    No fallacy here. You put up a couple of statements which I didn't believe to be true and I presented an argument which supported my disagreement.
    And of course I have a point, several in fact. Which if you had the courtesy to observe then you'd know.

    Tell you what when you've learnt to grow up, let me know.
     
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    You had nothing but special pleading. Do those alleged AnCaps still exist? Communism still exists, today.
     
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    Somalia certainly does.
     
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    Why is your information so obsolete?

     
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    Why is yours?
    The so called TFG doesn't have authority outside of Mogadishu.
     
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    I am not sure what you mean; here is the Body politic that has authority in that State'

     
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    Which is comprised of whom?
    I'll answer it for you; members of the TFG who were fighting for control but ultimately don't have authority outside Mogadishu.
     
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    Nominal government fulfills the premise of my argument; your special pleading is merely that.
     
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    You never said that.
    And I'm not pleading to anyone.

    To be honest I'm satisfied that you have a flawed argument and it's unfortunate that you don't have the maturity to deal with it despite having such flaws being blatantly exposed.
    You've also been pretty rude as well.
    So really all I can say "jog on, you tommy tanker"
    Oh and my signature might be pretty useful to read in your case
     
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    Special pleading is what you are doing and that only leads to fallacies of composition.
     
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    As soon as he starts repeating the "special pleading" accusation (which he always does eventually), you know that you've made your point and he has nothing left.
     
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    I knew that two pages ago. I was just having fun.
     
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    AnCaps exist less than communism. It really is that simple.
     
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    'Please explain to everyone the details of your beliefs and personal tastes in the Political realm.'...

    I believe President Franklin D. Roosevelt’s public acknowledgement on January 6, 1941, of “four freedoms” that all people should be entrusted with, which included freedom of speech and expression, freedom of worship, freedom from want, and freedom from fear, and the progressivism of the Roosevelt-era should be re-visited as a reminder of the “four freedoms” that could address today’s political and social issues.

    To passively accept or condone a government which continuously proves itself to be corrupt and self-serving, and/or which overtly disassembles the foundations of the Constitutional Republic is against the very advice our Forefathers had offered... 'It is every Citizens 'DUTY' and 'OBLIGATION' to remove any Leader and/or government that becomes corrupt or self-serving.'

    The ability for any American to openly discuss their Political Philosophy will eventually depend on his/her ability to re-gain control of their government. Control of government rightly belongs is in the hands of the people, NOT in the hands of Wall Street Manipulators, Corporate American profiteers, Elitists, the Military Industrial Complex, nor Global financial Cartels like those in the cleverly named Federal Reserve System (a Corporation virtually controlled by privately-owned for-profit Banking families like JP Morgan, Wells Fargo, Bank of America, Citigroup, Chase Manhattan, etc.)

    I see no meaningful 'Fix' to the root cause of the ills America is facing. The 'Electoral System' has been compromised by the Almighty Corporate Dollar and no longer functions as intended. In my opinion the American people have only two choices; Accept the dictates of those now in control of 'their' government, or actively remove them. Both require sacrifices; 'Liberty', Freedom', and 'Justice' on the one hand, and lives of American Patriots on the other. Tough choices to many, but easy for others.
     
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    I still believe supply side economics should be supplying us with better governance at lower cost.
     
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