What It's Like Living In Leftist California

I think that is a common story and still true today. Suburbia is where many professionals with family live. When you are single you are more likely to live in the heart of the city. I do recognize the suburbs around big cities are ridiculously expensive. The value of our 4 bedroom home is around the same amount as a mansion with estate in Tennessee. The luxury of living and working in these places is, you have the option, like you did, to retire or move somewhere else and live very well. People in the lower income areas do not have that luxury and that is why people flocked to places like CA for these opportunities. I wrote in another thread a while back about friend that is an engineer that had a job opportunity to move his family to Nashville because his company had openings there. I think that situations like this are great but what do you think is happening with housing prices and cost on living in Nashville as more professional start moving there. Demand drives prices. No politician in Tennessee is going to say that is a bad thing and we must keep incomes down. Everyone recognizes the advantages when people earn higher wages but it comes with the downside of higher cost of living. This does make it more difficult for people in low skill occupations which results in the class problems others spoke about in California.

 

Within everything exists everything...I get that. What's your point?

 

No doubt, but there's not much to be done about what happened up to the 80's. Democrats who are moderate would probably do a fine job [if you could find any not completely corrupt] if they go stick with policy that supports what used to be their core constituency...the working family. The transition of Democrats to supporting corporate America [and especially the MIC] and breeding more and more dependency with the welfare programs have given us the worst of all worlds,

 

California is #1 for natural disasters.

 

So according to that chart, California would be 12% more expensive than average? If you lived here, you would know it is not the case. If that were the case, the state would probably have 100M people. I just paid $600. for my monthly gas [heating] bill that was less than half that amount last year. Did your heating bill double this winter?

 

California is an amazing place that [everything else being equal] the entire world would probably want to move here given the conditions that existed before, say, 1970. With massive growth came massive corruption and things began to go downhill...to the point where things are really messed-up now.

Point is...it's time to fix the problems. I am not asking for your kidney or liver!

 

The problem with your argument is everyone is presenting you with some form of statistical data. We are showing you data that is collected and presented by the government or economic organizations. If you have what you believe are more accurate statistics you are free to show them and I would gladly look at them.

Instead what you are doing is using your personal experience as an argument. While that has value it is probably limited. For example if you never been robbed before and last this year someone broke into your home or mugged you, it is not an indication that crime just increase by 100% or more. Using that type of logic the only thing you can say with certainly is CA is too expensive for you. The statistics are designed to represent the entire population.

 

Ummm….yes….you did.

I used the measure that actually measures poverty. The standard measure is actually just a measure of incomes of different states. Income doesn’t necessarily predict poverty. It matters what purchasing power each dollar has as well as how much state welfare mitigates poverty.

 

Oh, so it was not you who said "one party leadership in caused it to go down the tubes"? Got it.

 

That’s correct. I never posted that. If I had you could quote it using the PF quote function!

Try reading MY posts and responding to what I actually post, not what others post. That would be great.

 

And yet, California has a robust economy, 5th in thw world. The negativity of the right on this issue is simply illogical.

 

See # 36.

 

See #36.

 

See #36.

 

5th largest world economy. That sounds competent and quite intelligent.

 

No.
Did it ever occur to you that maybe the reason that state has a "big" economy might have something to do to with the fact they have more people than the entire country of Canada?

That combined with inflated real estate prices. Of course the economy is going to be "bigger" when all land costs 4 times as much. For most people who own houses in the state, the land under their house costs more than the house itself.

 

See my post and respond. Feel free to copy and paste from #36 if you feel it addresses the issue.

 

What shall we call it? California Obsession Syndrome?

 

I am sorry, it must be my imagination how expensive it is here. I'll let the other 39M Californians know they can stop worrying about the cost of living here, as well.

Wow, what a relief! Maybe you can get in touch with the folks in NYC and tell them not to worry too!

 

Hate to be the one to break it to you, but the government has nothing to do with GDP. Imagine how well CA would be doing if it had a pro-business and pro-growth government.

 

See #1

 

Or just call it what it is. The ability to see results.

 

Very well said. I'm so glad I moved to Texas!!!

TEXAS!! WHERE FREEDOM LIVES!!

 

Gotta agree... weather can't be beat in CA.
It also has the highest poverty rate.
I taught high school Physics in California. So many kids had failed math courses that I couldn't use math... it was all demonstration. I was forced to teach wave theory with a slinky... no math. If I even mentioned something like E=IR, the students would ask for calculators.
I left a $450,000 home in San Diego.. two bedroom, one bath hovel on a postage stamp of land. I bought a four bedroom, three bath home in Texas for half that. Pay in California is higher. It has to be or you're homeless.

 

Yeah, "usually", but not recently

And the highest home prices and rental, hopeless population, and rising crime rates in big cities

Part of generating that GDP

Schools? probably not. Reading and math scores are abysmal. Colleges do well teaching Woke crap.

Only cause we have a ton of "capital".

And yet people are leaving. We lost a House seat because of declining population
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It sounds like a nice place to be.[/QUOTE]. It has its moments but most of the above falls into the BFD category.