What makes the Quran, better than Bible or Torah?

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  1. Ezra

    Ezra New Member

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    LOL prove I am a "bigot" Thanks :mrgreen:

    Never said I was. Your the one who has


    lol proven nothing. IT has nothing new but plagerized stories with changed point of views and (*)(*)(*)(*) talking. That is all Quran is. Is toilet paper with plagerized stories and (*)(*)(*)(*) talking on Jews and Christians
     
  2. Bishadi

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    you doing it, all over this forum


    you cant spell but bare false witness, all over the place.

    ie..... even deny your own actions to yourself and claim you aint doing it, in writing to this forum
    i deny you an action of content.

    I aint here to appease you
    tailmud in the hands of idiots is just tailmud and i quoted the (*)(*)(*)(*) for you to smell your own stink

    ie.... more false witness (denying your own actions with an insult to the witness of your actions)

    selfishness, bigotry
     
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    talking (*)(*)(*)(*) on quran without recognizing more good comes from quran, than torah or the tailmud you have your nose in

    ie.... you dont comprehend that you are liable to your brethren for your actions, while quran, teaches exactly that!

    That is what makes the quran better than torah!!!!!!!!

    i can judge and hold integrity to my actions............

    i am better than you based on it

    Never said you aint capable, but from the evidence so far, you are worthless!

    and there is more evidence.

    i point out that quran imposes personal responsibility in comparison to torah/tailmud adherants

    and babble teaches that people are not responsible and are forgiven just by believing and baptising

    quran, teaches... you best watch yourself or you will be judged, right now (by your peers)


    i dont like much of the level of such beliefs but i would prefer people being responsible that being untrue to all because they think they are better than another or that they are forgiven by 'a god'.


    you keep calling quran toilet paper simply to invoke a response and claiming plagerize but then will not identify that the commands of moses (per se) are also just plagerized from egypt (same with circumcision)

    ie.... you will deny truth but will witness only what sustains what makes your case
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    More good ? Not sure why you claim this.

    Your claim seems to be that gargabe piled up on more garbage is somehow better ?

    The "Truth" that is being denied is that the trash should be taken out.
     
  5. Ezra

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    HAHA You ARE a joke! More good comes from Quran and Muslims then from Torah and Gospel?

    Seems you should go read the news man.

    Thats it, after seeing you not prove anything, but just make more and more basless accusations against me, and then say this joke, proves nothing but that you are uneducated in world affairs.

    BUt thanks for the laughs.

    BTW smart guy, saying Quran is toilet paper, doesnt make one a bigot. LOL Quran is not a race, but a book :mrgreen:

    Invest in a newspaper and a dictionary
     
  6. montra

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    I have read a great deal within the quran. Have I read all of it, no, but I have read the entire Bible. So YOU are the one who is making the accusation that the quran is superior to the Bible, therefore, I presume you have read both in their entirety. So I say to you AGAIN, prove it. Obviously you can't, otherwise you would provide evidence for your baseless claims.

    So I say to you again, show me ANYTHING comparable to Christ's teaching that love is God's law. It is love not just for the "good" people but the sinners as well. In addition, are there any verses in the quran similar to turning the other cheek? Up until the time of Christ, showing love for ones love is revolutionary. If not, who else before him practiced this?

    From what I have read in the quran and the example of Mohammad is a warlord hell bent on conquest and establishing world governments in the name of Islam. He converted with the sword and is in stark contrast to Christ who forbade Peter from defending him with a sword before he went to the cross. Face it, Mohammad and Christ are like oil and water. Christ showed mercy to a woman caught in adultery as where Mohammad would have picked up stones to kill her. In addition, Christ was not fixated on creating theocracies or overthrowing "evil" governments. His focus was God's kingdom which is not of this world. In comparison, we have followers of Mohammad today which are fulfilling their orders given to them by their Master Mohammad, and that is to create theocracies in the name of Islam. To put it simply, Mohammad WAS and IS of this world, Christ was and is from above.
     
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    Sure. After all, Islam kills far more sinners. :-D
     
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    "What makes the Quran, better than Bible or Torah?"

    If you get one written in the original language, it's makes for very pretty rolling papers.
     
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    Your statement is historically incorrect. Islam has a long way to go to catch up with the 1400 year Christian killing spree.

    That said .. do we really need to count ?

    Both have such a terrible record of killing .. both should be thrown into the trash bin.
     
  10. montra

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    I was referring to the absence of a theocracy. Christiandom has learned its lesson, Islam has not. In fact, I would argue that for fundamentalist Muslims who take Mohammads every word to be true that theocracies are a mandate, not a choice.

    Simply put, there is no beter vehicle for sinful man to murder than to do so in the name of God. When will people wake up in the Muslim world?
     
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    I agree with the (killing in the name of God) statement 100%.

    That Christiandom has learned its lesson ? That is debatable.

    I think the signers of the Constitution had definately learned this lesson.

    Somehow over the centuries we have forgotten the Wisdom inherent in this Constitution. Over the last century Religious folk have succeded in getting many laws made on the basis of religion.
     
  12. montra

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    Forgotten the Constitution? Washington is full of them, but I dare say none of them are in Libya, Afghanistan, or Iraq because of God. I would even argue that most wars waged in the name of God had NOTHING to do with religion.
     
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    Kind of like how the war in Iraq had nothing to do with 911. Politicians need to find reasons that the public will buy into. What the real reasons are is anyones guess.
     
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    The Qu'ran is a book onto itself. It is "the spoken word" of Islam.

    But it is fair to point out that word was spoken 1400 years ago and a lot has changed since.

    And it's also fair to say the Qu'ran is as imperfect as any other religous book as it doesn't beget an organized faith. Jesus had Peter...

    I treat tham all equally, as I do all other religous books. Just lay 'em out on a table and pick and choose.
     
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    I find all three books equally fanciful.
     
  16. prospect

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    What makes the Quran, better than Bible or Torah?


    Nothing .. Jesus revolutionized religion, The prophet Mohammad said:

    4:34:Men are the protectors and maintainers of women because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient and guard in (the husband’s) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (next), refuse to share their beds, (and last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them means (of annoyance): For God is Most High, Great (above you all).

    No contest, Jesus Christ was far more "evolved" than Islam.
     
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    First Timothy 2:9-15

    First Peter 3:1-3

    my emphasis
     
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    It's better for igniting a fire. Give me a match and I'll light the fire.
     
  19. prospect

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    What your point ?
     
  20. Ezra

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    Why would you waste perfect toilet paper like that? Think of all the trees that gave their lives so you may have a clean ass! :fart:
     
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    Could you be more specific about what you didn't understand, please?
     
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    I am not sure if I have seen worse flame bait. If I have, I don't know what it was.
     
  23. prospect

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    What was the connection to your post and mine ? Specifically, you replied to my post with what might be perceived as sexist biblical scripture or on the flip side, a relief compared to the parts of the quran that I provided.

    So I'm not sure what your emphasis was exactly.
     
  24. prospect

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    The OP is definitely flame bait, but seems to be severely lacking in theology, so we educate him and he gets banned. (win/win)
     
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    Silly me....I am so unobservant. Nice work.
     

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