What Republican could possibly run for President next?

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  1. SFJEFF

    SFJEFF New Member

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    Moderates won't go for Cruz. But they might go for Christie.

    I think lots of people were impressed when Christie put New Jersey before the Republican Party and ignored the haters who cared more about him taking a helicopter ride with Obama than what Christie was doing for his constituents.
     
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    Anyone who can raise the admission fee. The democrats will be in disarray in 2016 when they are fighting like cats to distinguish themselves. They will not have the advantage of an incumbent President, and at this rate, even a popular one to follow.
     
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    The left are getting behind Christie for Republican nominee because he's the lesser of all the evils. I'm sure the Republicans would pick the most Conservative Democrat they could for Democratic nominee, that wouldn't mean the Republicans were getting behind that lesser of all evils.
     
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    I have to agree. With the media hatred of overweight people becomes palatable to the common voter I bet heavier people rally behind him too. They can only trash people for so long. For me, vouchers are priority one. I wish they just went to everyone though instead of just failing schools. With common core and the nationalization movement I hope come nationalized vouchers. Probably wont, no money it is a pipe dream, but that kind of educational choice I think could really pay off long term.

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    No such thing as moderate democrats anymore.
     
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    Definetely true I consider myself a democrat but I'd probably vote christie becaue of his willingness to take all opinions and make an informed decision based on the populist opinon. It all comes dow to trust and I trust Chris Christie much more than Hillary to be rational.
     
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    except for the added the vp's they did...
     
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    That makes sense, given that traditional, establishment Republicans are out to stomp out the TPs upstarts, and the TPs still don't grasp that the only way the GOP has fared as well as it has in recent presidential elections is by having nominated candidates with a fairly broad appeal to Americans, not alienated, ideological hard liners struggling with their Ayn Rand Clifts Notes.

    The last dude's only claim to fame on his scanty political resumé was the individually-mandated health care reform that became the model for the nation.

    If the TPs couldn't deal with that, it's time they got a clue, stop shrieking "Rino! or "Liberal! at every reasonable person, move out of the GOP family's basement, and stand on their own two right feet as "Dixiecans" or "Strom Troopers."



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    I am worried less about the next president and more about the next congress to be honest
     
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    Actually they are both just as important. If a GOP president gets into office with a DEM dominated legislative branch then instantly he either becomes an Obama style hyper-partisan lame duck OR he decides to pull a Bill Clinton and become a true leader and president of all of the people and then 'triangulates' and becomes a consensus builder and genuine statesman. The end results being generally sane and beneficial bills get generated and then signed into law. It's when -- for instance -- a GOP president enters the Oval Office with a GOP dominated legislature that there's going to be a huge problem as a result since then he or she is almost inevitably going to arrogantly pull an Obama and declare (paraphrased) "I won and elections have consequences".

    So the identity and nature of the president is just as important as the dominant political identity of the legislative branch.
     
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    A funny thing for a Republican to be saying.

    It was Karl Rove that pushed the idea of trying to drive votes to the candidate the GOP most wanted to run against in 2004.

    He wasn't expecially successful with it, but the idea got a lot of traction in political consultant circles.

    They tried it again in 2008.

    The GOP desperately wanted Hillary Clinton to be the Democratic candidate.

    As the momentum began to swing towards Obama, the GOP moved to deploy its race baiting early. That's when Fox Noise had the Reverend Wright video handed to them, and when they began playing it every ten or fifteen minutes for days on end.

    They had always planned on playing the race card against Obama if needed. The race card has been a feature of most GOP presidential campaigns since 1980. But the smear had to be launched before the last of the big primaries.

    It didn't work. In the end, they got desperate and Limbaugh launched is "Operation Chaos" campaign in the Pennsylvania primary, hoping to get Republcians to vote for Clinton in an open primary and break Obama's momentum.
     
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    People who think that can't be too bright.

    The last thing you want in party politics is for your opponant to run a credible candidate.

    Christie is the only Republican today who polls even passibly well.

    The rest of the tea party creeps and nut cases poll worse then George W Bush did on his way out the door.

    And yet, the far right thinks the bubble they live in is mainstream, and that one of these men will be President.
     
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    the current batch of republicans wont even pass bills they support if they think Obama supports them.. not sure if it's cause he is the first black President or what, but they are definitely being irrational
     
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    let em run a Bachmann\Palin candidate :)
     
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    There's no need to bring race into an issue that's essentially ideological in nature. Being a closet socialist, Obama promotes bills that are harmful to this nation's prosperity and/or culture. GOP leaders NOT being socialists naturally do not like or support such capitalism harming or culturally damaging proposals. End of story. They still would not support Obama embraced policies were his hair golden in color and his skin tone bleached out.
     
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    There is every need to bring race into it. Cut the fairytale crap and call it like it is. Obama is not a socialist; he is a left leaning centrist. Anyone who extends the Bush tax cuts would make socialists cry.

    Obama was called out before he even took oath in 2007 as president elect. Call it like it is. RACISM.

    Obama has emasculated a lot of insecure white males in this country. Pardy already posted a pre-election 2008 video where people in Ohio were calling Obama a Muslim and a terrorist. They also said they feared Obama was out to get white people. This is WAY past ideology.
     
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    That is just an idiotic claim. I understand that you believe this- but it is a sterling example of the blindness of partisan goggles.
     
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    We'll watch the battle between the two current leading opportunists play out. Ted Cruz versus Rand Paul.
     
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    Hilary Clinton nabs 70% of the popular vote.

    Seriously, what state does either of them take back for the GOP?? LOL
     
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    Obama very definitely is a closet socialist; although not really so closeted as that the Left simply refuses to believe what he's written in his own memoirs and the record of a certain socialist organization which once boasted of having Obama as a member. It's just that most leftwingers confuse the type of old-fashioned (bring the nation to its knees) socialist that Obama is with sweetness and light and gentleness liberalism. They are NOT the same thing. The type of socialist Obama is leads to bloody revolutions way down the line and death in the streets. He's playing a long game, which is also why leftwingers get confused over just who and what he is both politically and ideologically.

    Racism has zilch to do with why the Right of Center voters and leadership want nothing to do with nine-tenths of all Obama supported or promoted policies. But continue to think whatever provides you psychological comfort -- because you will anyway. I suspect though that one day in your early fifties or so you will come to re-examine this era and conclude that -- yes -- the opposition to Obama really was based on politics and ideology and not racism.
     
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    I too am an independent with no partisan bias, but the other party is just so extremist I don't there could possibly be any sane or electable person in their 1/3rd of the nation. :/
     
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    Your fears are misguided. I think you should re-examine the true defnition of socialism.
     
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    You are aware that each separate socialist organization (both in the United States and across the world) have their own variation of a definition of socialism, yes? Oddly enough very few of them coincide with any dictionary's definition. Go figure.
     
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    The consistent variable is Republicans using fear to promote anti-ObamaNation. Fear of socialism, fear of Obamacare, fear of Obama's revenge on white people. Call it whichever one you would like. All I ever hear out of republicans the last 5 years is fear fear fear hate hate hate. Not a single solution.
     
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    You mean the solutions suggested that Obama rejects out of hand with a hearty, "I will not negotiate with the Right!" Look, it's impossible for me to convince you that nine and nine-tenths of objections regarding Obama's policy pushes are based on ideological and political differences and not racism and so I shan't even try. But do not be shocked at yourself if years and years from now you experience an . . . epiphany.
     
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    Let's see who they have-

    Chris Christie.....known for his temper, also hated by the GOP Base for "hugging Obama", etc.

    Ted Cruz.....the Birther hypocrisy candidate, who plunged the GOP approvals to a record low (28%) due to his Shutdown Debacle. Also has a Dad that simply won't shut up.

    Rand Paul....in trouble with the Base for supporting Mitch McConnell, ditto Shutdown, ditto the Dad (or his Cultists) not being able to shut up. Has had neo-Confederates on his staff.

    Marco Rubio.....one word "amnesty", again see trouble with Base, throw in Shutdown for the rest of America.

    Jeb Bush.....which would be like the GOP nominating Herbert Hoover's brother in 1940.

    Rick Perry.....Er...oops. Aside from the brother of one, nothing the public would love more than ANOTHER fumblemouthed Texas Governor for President, huh?

    Forget anybody?
     
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