What we knew all along: Study finds atheists smarter than believers.

No, that's agnostics.

Atheists spend their lives trying to convince others, especially by creating thread-after-thread in online forums.

Still... "I don't know" doesn't say much for that so called "intelligence". ; )

See what you did there.

 

(Don't underestimate it's value in bashing Christians.. which was the entire reason this non-info was turned into a thread after all. The insecure thrive on finding and posting these silly "studies". In fact he's likely typing up a new thread about it as we speak).

 

What is to stop a god from wiping out all virtually life on earth on a whim? Oh wait...

So...wait...you are trying to claim...with a straight face...that belief in divine morality...is a bigger deterrent...than that of prison...i guess thats why...there are no crimes...committed by believers...

Anyway, your eye-watering over-use of ellipsis aside, my point was that morals are ALWAYS relative. Always.

 

No, you're wrong, Atheists can say "I dont know" too.

And no, you're wrong, atheists don't spend their lives trying to convince others by creating threads. I for instance have not created a single thread here.

And no, you're wrong, saying "I dont know" is the ONLY intelligent approach, if you actually don't know. Which, you know, absolutely nobody does.

 

For though I know now that I exist, that I am alive, I also know that someday I will no longer exist, that I will no longer be, that I will die. This thought is staggering and threatening: to think that the person I call "myself" will cease to exist, that I will be no more!

Atheists are far more in denial over their own mortality than the religious...anyone contemplating the futility of existence outside of a spritual framework...arrives at the same conclusion....your life ulitmately...means nothing...your offspring...nothing...the Universe too...will die.

Accept this...this is reality....and seek answers beyond the futility of a material existence...in whatever form that may be..for we are here for a purpose...You may not like Christianity...or Islam...or Buddhism...but get in touch with your spirtual self...get away from materialism...

have a good weekend!

 

Excellently put.

Starting thread after thread trying to disprove God seems the biggest waste of time ever.
Why do people try to convince others so much, if the truth were that there is no God.

Know why? We see it constantly in the Religion forum,the names of the repeat thread creators.

It's because they are trying to convince themselves.

There is no other possible goal of arguing against the existence of God, because they certainly aren't trying to win souls.
And they know they won't.

Calling names, insulting, etc..... is all just effort to help them reaffirm their own, unstable beliefs.
If a person feels secure in their atheism..... they aren't online arguing about it.

 

And what do you base that on? Because I call shenanigans, I think you're talking crap.

Provide reasonable evidence that there is such a thing as a supernatural spirit and I will do just that.

 

We are in denial because those who believe in the afterlife or anything spiritual have not provided solid evidence of the existence of these things? And your plea is for us to stop thinking about materialism because "it's scary"? Yeah, no thanks, I don't like to hide under the covers.

 

Why wouldn't I want to educate people in what I believe to be the facts?

Couldn't be more wrong.

Just because you haven't thought deeply enough about it to figure out an answer, does not mean there is no answer.

Oh dear, wrong again.

 

Thanks speech coach. Yes, you're right... anyone can say those 3 English words.

I was responding to the complacency assigned to it.

Oh, my bad. Then since you don't... none do.

(Yet somehow this forum is quite active with them).

(oops)

So not knowing, is "intelligence" in your world.

Noted.




And avoiding that world.

 

So was I. Maybe you shouldn't jump to conclusions.

I wasn't aware that I had said that. And here I thought I was just showing that your blanket generalisation wasn't true.

It sure is easy to defeat a man in an argument when he's made of straw, isn't it.

 

Sure was.

 

See the difference between knowledge and belief.

Atheists do many things, many of them do engage in the religious debate and the reason for this has far more to do with challenging something they consider corrosive and damaging to society than it does to make others think the way they do.

I'm sure you could easily go through all the threads here and show that we atheists are all the same...I won't hold my breath.

You seem to be under the impression that if you protest something or even disagree with it on a public stage it should automatically be considered a negative. Or that somehow you are just the other side of the same coin. The rejection of belief is not belief. I don't have to believe that something doesn't exist if there is no evidence that it does.

Ah yes the theistic view that making absolute claims absent of supporting evidence is far more intelligent than to say I cannot know therefore I don’t.

 

What I don't understand is...have atheists truly thought it through...because the logical conclusion can be drawn by dismissing the divinity of the Universe.....

It's pointless.

"We're smarter than you"...

Great..and when the human species dies out....that little flicker of "victory" will be enveloped by the nothingness of non-existence...signifying nothing.

They argue because they like to argue..it's a diversion from the contemplation of their own mortality...another heartbeat towards oblivion...the only logical conclusion the end game of atheism brings. The absurdity of life...and the struggle...for naught. What other conclusion is there given a random and purposeless approach to the notion of life and death? I can think of none....Science says...the Universe will experience heat death...that is the end game afterall.

Negates a lot of any sort of intellectual pursuits now doesn't it?

If belief in divinity is an absurd notion in the mind of an atheist...one can easily say the same for their approach to life..and ultimately making Science their divinity....sure science can find ways to extend life a few years...but what's the real end game here....population growth becomes unsustainable...never mind a Universe heat death...eventually the planet will be largely unsustaining of life...used up like a dried prune. Colonize another planet...okay...and aftera few millenia...that planet dies...and so on...fast forward a few billion years...does anyone honestly believe the human species is going to go the distance...I think not....we are a vapor on the cosmic scale of time...that is the end game...the pursuit of knowledge is as futile as worshipping on your knees to a made up God..now isn't it....every human pursuit beyond survival...is an exercise in absolute futility and survival itself..if one's goal is simply to live for as long as humanly possible even this eventually has an end game. That is the logical conclusion which can be drawn from atheism. This isn't multiple choice..the answer is a definitive...life becomes absurd.

 

What causes hyperellipsiasis?

 

Nope. I suggest reading up on atheism.

 

Haha, no. I like a debate, thats true, about many things, not just religion. But this 'diversion' idea is nothing more than sheer projection on your part.

Absurd, no. For naught, maybe, but so what? I'm sorry if that idea scares you but some of us can cope with it no problem at all.

No, absolutely not. Everything may be meaningless in the face of the enormity of the universe, but in the context of an individual's life, anything can become important. We are atheists, not suicidal nihilists.

Literally nobody I have heard of does this. It's sad that you resort to just making crap up.

Again, in the grand scheme of everything in the universe, yes. In the context of our lives, which is the actual important thing, absolutely not.

May I suggest you stop trying to project your own morbid and short-sighted psychology onto those who apparently have more emotional fortitude than you.