What we know about Brett Favre and his texts in Mississippi welfare scandal

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  1. Wild Bill Kelsoe

    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    You said welfare recipients paid taxes. What's it going to be?
     
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    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    Welfare recipients don't pay taxes...lol
     
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    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    Plenty of people do. You jealous?
     
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    You’ll have to tell me where you got lost for me to explain.
     
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    Many do before and after being on welfare.
     
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    Wait I thought the college students were poor, in fact so poor we need to pay their student loan debt? Sounds like he was just helping the poor. That being said, I bet we find this is all 100% bs but if he did anything illegal, throw him in jail.
     
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    But not while ON welfare...
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Who is Jameis Winston?

    I'm assuming a black.. man?

    You're projecting.
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's not true.

    Republicans support higher wages, just not way of unfunded mandates.
     
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    Is everyone with college loan debt getting their loans repaid? I don't think so.
    And for most, it's 10K, not being paid off entirely.
    Most likely just reduced the length they will pay. Then they can contribute more income to propelling the economy.

    Where is this story about him helping the poor?

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    Former Green Bay Packers Quarterback and Hall of Famer Brett Favre has been accused of using his "special access" to former Mississippi Gov. Phil Bryant and other officials in his home state in order to influence roughly $8 million in welfare payments for himself, pharmaceutical company Prevacus, and a volleyball court for the University of Southern Mississippi, according to an expose published last week Mississippi Today—though Favre has not been charged criminally or accused of a crime.
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/marisa...llion-welfare-scam-explained/?sh=1908ada92ddd
     
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    Unions are unfunded mandates?
    Are you aware that when min wage increases happen, it only affect perhaps 10% of the workforce?
    Everyone else is already at or above that wage.

    Min wage goes back almost 100 yrs. It's never hurt the economy when its raised.
    The economy of the USA has gone up over the last 100 yrs.
     
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    I think Shannon Sharpe said it best.

     
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    Technically yes because taxes means sales, property, income, etc. Most welfare recipients pay some sort of sales tax to some extent. And some pay some sort of income tax but depending on the type of welfare they receive. But it's complicated.
     
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    They don't pay income taxes and income taxes are what we're all referring to and you know it...lol
     
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    I'd suggest Brett deserves a sting in The Big House. Forget who he supports, he's a real POS.
     
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    Not necessarily true. It really depends on what type of government assistance do they receive. I know a few who do, but own their own business. And they pay a self-employment tax on the income tax return when they file. I think what you are getting confused is that welfare payments are not taxed and thus they are not taxed. That is only true if you do not earn any type of income. However, welfare does not even meet the basic needs of one, let alone a family of four. Thus many who do receive any type of welfare are also working unless they are receiving SSI. Even EITC is a form of welfare benefit and you have to earn moeny and be taxed to receive that income, assuming you meet the rules, especially for people with no dependents.
     
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    Are republicans opposed to unions? I think republicans are opposed to public sector unions, as those work for government agencies who determine the appropriate prevailing wages using other peoples money. Which just turns into spending tax dollars on buying votes.

    That isn't true. Minimum wage increases may directly affect only 10%, but the increase of costs for goods and services trickles down as well meaning either people pay more, or their wage they make is devalued due to inflation.

    Every action has a reaction. That applies to economics as much as physics. It's pretty simple to prove as well.

    If you raised minimum wage to $100 an hour, would there be economic impacts? Any portion less than that has a proportional impact as well.

    Despite mandates like minimum wage.
     
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    Yes, R's are anti union. Public or otherwise. If you don't want fire and police unions and protection, why bother to pay taxes at all?
    Those agencies, teachers included, all use other people's money. As they are funded via taxes. Live with it. Don't push them to the lowest common denominator. One gets what they pay for.

    It may trickle down, but that is all it is, a trickle. Has the economy ever gone into a recession following a min wage hike? I don't think so. Again, 90% of the workforce already exceeds min wages.
    So I don't buy this trickle down claim. It is mostly meaningless.

    No one is asking, at least a person with credibility, for $100/hr. That's insane as it not an argument against min wage. Again, min wage only brings up the wages of the last 10% or so of those markets that have not increased the wage level.
     
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    Wait. What? You realize it is possible to have police and fire that aren't union right?

    Yeah, that isn't how it works though.

    It isn't about the least common denominator. It's about unions and government agencies negotiating on employment terms using other peoples unlimited dollars, which eventually results in non-funded or unsustainable pension funds and employment contracts. There is literally nobody sitting at the negotiating table advocating for the taxpayer who are expected to pickup the tab.

     
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    I'll be happy to take on that wager BTW, the Gov of MS, stated he is glad he is not in Jackson, the capital, all while that city is the midst of a water crisis.

    Real class act.
     
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    You don't even know what race he is so your opinion is worth squat.
     
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    No they don't.

    Here you have a millionaire who used welfare funds for his project and all you can do is defend it.

    Never again do you have any leeway to criticize ANYBODY on welfare or anyone on the left.
     
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    Right right right.

    In order to be woke, and assume EVERYTHING is about race, the first criteria of any formulation of opinion should be based on ethnicities.

    What's it like to live in that world were you're incapable of seeing past race, yet claim your a warrior against racism?

    Is it like the upside down?

    Jajah.
     
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    Show us the crime, then. Be serious for a change.
     
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    It's possible, but not very likely. Every police department in a major city has a police union. Small-town cops belong to a state police union or national police union directly in a lot of cases. But small towns are different where everyone knows everyone sort of thing.


    It isn't about the least common denominator. It's about unions and government agencies negotiating on employment terms using other peoples unlimited dollars, which eventually results in non-funded or unsustainable pension funds and employment contracts. There is literally nobody sitting at the negotiating table advocating for the taxpayer who are expected to pickup the tab.[/QUOTE]
    There is a correction here. Public unions are not funded by taxpayer dollars. The members pay dues and the dues fund the union and its activities.

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    You have to look at the origins of the minimum wage which were the child labor laws of the 1910s. The problem with minimum wage jobs is it was intended for the youth primarily but now we have 50% of minimum wage jobs occupied by adults with families. The other problem is the cost of living in which a majority of low-paying, hourly jobs do not support a family of four in an apartment. So, two options here: either we lower the cost of living by slashing all wages beginning from the top on down, or we raise the lower wage amounts to a respectable income in which a family of four can live in an apartment with no federal or state assistance.
     

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