What Went Wrong For The DNC? Easy....

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  1. tkolter

    tkolter Well-Known Member

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    Well they said Sanders was unelectable, at least he was a nice decent politician who would have talked about the issues and been civil in simple terms would have been Trumps worst nightmare.
     
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    • For starters, I'd have to agree, Hillary was an extremely flawed candidate. Factual or not, her personality negatives made her come off as too pompous and regal. She's also very pro-war, which was an issue the corporate media refused to bring up but from my perspective, was discussed by many middle class people. Her image as a bought and paid for banking/corporate shill resonated with many people.
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    • Obama and the Democrats alienated many liberals and progressives, especially Obama's warmongering.Their far left shift on PC social endeavors has already bit them in the ass and this is only the start. Sanders backing Hillary has doom his movement and Warren's support for her has killed any chance of presidential aspirations, barring any unforeseen situations.
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    • Members of the far right, particularly of the religious right, would be sorely mistaken to see this election as a mandate for their erroneous ideology. Trump is more neoliberal than the GOP partisians can imagine and religious based ideologies were never a part of his campaign platform.
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    • There is a resurgent interest in third party candidates.
     
  3. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Many of us thought it through. A Hillary presidency put many of our rights at risk, rights that liberals don't believe exist. Hillary never met a war she didn't like. I don't know about you but I'm tired of nationbuilding in other countries.
     
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    Very good assessment Pax.
     
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    You can cancel the criminal BS, you guys won...it is over, the propaganda machine worked, it fooled enough people. At this point you are only lying to your self, or are truly that ignorant, Trump won....Enjoy your revelry.

    I hope the best for America now...I'll eat all the crow thrown at me dismissing Trump. I truly never thought we as a people were this willfully ignorant. If i am wrong only positive will come from this.....right?
     
  6. Lesh

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    Just curious who you voted for.
    If you voted for anyone other than Clinton you can consider yourself responsible for whatever Trump does.

    Keep that in mind going forward
     
  7. AlphaOmega

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    Oh no no. Hillary is not above our laws, nor is comey, lynch or anyone else who was involved in her criminal activity. You better hope obama pardons her, if not Hillary is heading to jail. lynch and comey will be lucky if all that happens to them is losing their careers and reputations. If any of you lefties think we are going to sit by and let Hillary off the hook you are sadly mistaken. Our laws apply to everyone. Her only hope is a pardon from obama which will be the best way I can think of to end his disgrace of a presidency..it will be recorded as an admission of leftist corruption.
     
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    It ain't so easily declared. You've gone a wee-bit too far, and on a technicality.

    Yes, he's the next PotUS, but:
    Popular vote results -
    TheDonald: 58,967,470 votes (47.5%) :thumbsdown:
    Hillary: 59,092,337 votes (47.6%) :thumbsup:

    He won the electoral vote, not the popular vote.

    He's still a dork, until I anoint him otherwise ...

    My point: We have got to get rid of that antique contraption called an Electoral College ...
     
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    I wonder what those Wall Street'ers think now about the millions they sunk into the witches cauldron , hoping for their reward??
     
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    I'll put that warning at the bottom of my "Things to worry about" list.
     
  11. AmericanNationalist

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    Deplorable sealed it, but we were activated by being blasted with 'Angry White men', or 'White Privilege' or being supposed as terrorists, in our OWN Country. As a result, we felt we were no longer included in a so-called multicultural America. So we sought to make a true inclusive America.
     
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    In real life I cannot even convince my cousin to try meat....such a person is just hell bent on being a vegetarian...so i will not try anymore as it will just bring animosity....you are convinced without a doubt, based on the same evidence and logic as vegetarians,vegans, etc that, that fact is fact. So be it....you won.
     
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    By going so far to the left Democrats made themselves irrelevant.
     
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    Of course, the religious right doesn't have a true place. We're the ones who drove this engine and even if it collapses, we'll pick it right up. Our philosophy is Nation First, party second. We truly don't care how it's done, as long as it's done. We freaking did it! We Nationalists won power in the US. Unbelievable.
     
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    He also won 31 States by my count. And the difference is about 130 K votes. If every vote were proportioned equally regardless of population, Trump won more States and therefore should be seen as president. He was leading most of the night, how did this even happen?
     
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    Take a deeeeep breath.

    Now explain the above quote. What warmongering?

    The French invited him to join them in an attack on Raqqa (Syria). With troops.

    Get into another Middle-east imbroglio with foot-soldiers? Been there, done that!

    He refused.
     
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    What Went Wrong For The DNC?

    Easy, they forgot that humans are basically evil and given the go ahead to express the evil, they did.
     
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    Forget America's prestige, that's in the toilet...we have a fat, orange, vulgar clown for a President.......and freedom is obviously only for white males.

    But that's seems to be what Americans want....so...here we go....


    ...and it does give me yet another reason to be glad I am very old... :) (Although I have to hope I die before Trump destroys my SS....)
     
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    All good points but the main reason she lost is America wanted change, real change
     
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    Trump and hillary were nothing more than figureheads. Hillary represented status quo while Trump represents change,change won not Trump
     
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    The Russians hacked Hillary’s hivemind server, the signals are wrong, she won; Democrats should quickly put on tinfoil hats so they can see the real results.
     
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    Im not surprised a lefty would try and convince a vegan to eat meat.
    I think reagan said it best. It's not that our liberal friends are wrong, its just that they know so much about that which isnt so.
     
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    :roflol: What can I say...I'm stubborn and don't take idiocy for an answer :p
    She is not allergic, and she is selective vegetarian/vegan as she has enjoyed stuff with eggs, bacon fat, beef additives etc. (I guess ignorance is key) Much like People that are shown proof of Hilarys innocence, and commit the same crimes on a daily basis, that Hillary never actually committed but was just accused of....many times over and repeated till it got annoying and people just said ah F**k it....guilt by accusation.

    F**k it though...Hillary is now a loser...so next up....what is next?
     
  24. Soupnazi

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    I have to agree that this was one of her biggest errors. After riding Bill's coattails and using him to launch her own career in politics and went up against Obama 8 years ago. The dems were torn between wanting the first black or the first woman president. They chose the black guy and assumed the woman could run after Obama served his 4 or 8. Naturally to Hillary this meant it is her turn.

    We have seen somewhat similar losses in the past. Bob Dole and John Mccain both seemed to act as though it was their turn to be elected and therefore they deserved the presidency of course that did not work out for them.

    There are several other errors made by hillary and her side however.

    I think the biggest is simply underestimating the mood of America in certain key areas. The biggest being in Political correctness. From the beginning many people myself included stated that this is what the Trump campaign was all about. Win or lose he would be a huge middle finger in the face of political correctness and the left better wake up and realize it. Hillary did not realize it. Americans are sick of left wingers telling us we are racist if we oppose BLM or islamaphobic if we see islam as a violent dangerous religion. If one opposes AA or bans on discrimination by business owners we are called racist or sexist or homophobic.

    None of these labels are accurate they are just efforts to shut down any real or honest debate on the issues. It is not sexist to oppose feminist dogma or doctrine nor is it racist to call attention to the disproportionately high crime rate among african americans or the devastating rate of fatherless children in African American communities. But labeling someone in one way or the other has been the go to tactic for left wingers for decades now.

    This was a huge reason for trumps success he said blunt candid things which offended the HELL out of the SJW /PC crowd and his supporters loved it. Hillary reacted by calling such people Alt right or deplorable not realizing just how huge the population of Americans are who basically are sick of the whole left wing PC cowardice.

    As I recall trump has said a lot of goofy, stupid and crazy things during this campaign. I have my doubts that he will be a good president but am willing to wait and see what he does. Hillary however tried the same old thing that we have seen for decades. She stands for the children she stands for justice she stands for families blah blah blah. A back lash has been growing in America for sometime against the same old worn out political methods of standing for this or that and promising to make everyone better. Trump's ideas and promises may have been crazy or dumb or even impossible to deliver on but they were specific. He was not spewing the same old tired platitudes which is what Hillary did. Either she or her advisers did not realize how out of touch they are with the nation.
     
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    If what your candidate even proposes apparently isn't the gold standard, then what they propose is not what motivates the voters.

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    America chose a foreign born first lady instead of a scandal ridden first husband. Evil, I tell you, pure evil.
     

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