What would it take for you to switch?

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  1. Pipette8

    Pipette8 Well-Known Member

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    Alexander been busy recreationing.
     
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    Anyone who honestly reads any of the communists revolutions and has an ounce of concern for human life should feel the same way..
    What i posted are center right views yet the left is so far left they view them as extreme.
     
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    Probably from Obama's famous Pen and Phone charade . . . which Trump himself mostly penned and phoned out of existence once he became president. Executive Orders are not permanent if the next Chief Executive decides to alter or delete them.
     
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    Yep; reading real history -- as opposed to what the modern leftist system passes off in public schools as history -- will purely wake up anyone inclined toward independent thought processes. Of course this is precisely WHY the political Left no longer allows real history to be taught in public school systems.
     
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    A a political independent it is conceivable that some day I will again vote for a Democrat for the presidency; but he or she would have to cleave very close to the Center of politics in order for that to happen; and by that I mean the traditional center and not the 'new' center that the ever increasingly radical Left created for this nation about a decade ago. But it is very clear that a true Centrist will never again be allowed to rise to that level of political power on the nation's Left; and thus it's just not going to happen.
     
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    Well the difference is that most of the left (at least on this forum) only grant "pen and phone" powers to Democratic Presidents, but find them unconstitutional and authoritarian under Republican Presidents...but then don't believe that Republican Presidents have any constitutional or legal powers.

    Aleksender seems unique in thinking a hated Republican President actually has imaginary dictator powers.
     
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    If democrats did as you suggest they would no longer be Democrats so if that did change my vote I still wouldn't be switching to democrat.
     
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    Most of that I'd agree with and am surprised you said it.
     
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    That's nice sing around the campfire can't we all just get along rhetoric but reality is different
     
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    Income tax is constitutional presently. The constitution would have to be amended to get rid of it. That's difficult.
     
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    I don't like Trump as a person but as a president I'd give him a B+.
     
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    Voting the person is stupid. Vote policy. The differences in policy have never been more clear, and that is what the future of the USA hangs on, not personality.

    Albeit it takes a strong man to get up every morning and take a beating by MSM journalists every day and punch back.

    At last a new kind of republican who won't roll over & play dead and give the store away.
     
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    Well hating the constitution is hating America. Wanting to further destroy the 2nd ammendment is hating the constitution.
     
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    Most of your views would be opposed by Goldwater, Ford, and Reagan.

    The far right hate the Constitution. An example is its glorification of the 2dA into something it is not.
     
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    Nope, we just aren't twisting it into something it's not and lying about gin statistics to turn people against gun ownership.
    The second ammendment calls for every American to be free to own arms without government interference.

    Shalk not be infringed, infringement means to move in on the edges of.
     
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    Obama signed ZERO anti-gun legislation. Trump banned bump-stocks. Try again.
     
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    LOL! Well there is that...
     
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    Yes, the far right GOP today are twisting those policies into something Goldwater, Ford, and Reagan would never accepts.

    The 2dA does not call for "every American" to be armed to the teeth with whatever they want.
     
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    I would die before I would support scum like trump.
     
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    funny, i was just thinking the same thing
    when obama took office i wrote him on this
    some things take time
    the supreme court should not be on the vanguard of social change
    we have a deficit. We either have to pay more taxes or cut spending or both It is shameful that we have the best economy ever and cannot balance the budget
    the constitution is not changing
    Someone not embarrassing. Like mit romney.
    Someone who devised policies based on common sense rather than exciting the base
     
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    Cause he was a spineless wimp.

    Read his quotes on gun control.
     
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    Trump banned bump stocks, and Obama signed no anti-gun legislation.
     
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    It calls for every American to be able to keep and carry any weapon they deem necessary to maintain the security of a free state, feeedom starts with the ability to defend your own security. The AR 15 is one of if not the best choices for self and home defense.
     
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    No - it was because he was realist.
    But I see you threw up your blinders when it came to Trump being the one who signed the bump-stock ban ... typical.
    As for quotes -here's one for you ...

    "I like taking away guns early. Take the guns first, go through Due Process second ... " - President Donald Trump, Feb. 2018.
     
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    Right-wing nuts, some of which have now been labeled terrorists by trump's dept of homeland security, are marching through the streets of Portland with high-power weapons loaded and displayed. How much more freedom do you want?

    Wont be happy until they start shooting, eh?
     
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