What's So Bad About the Word "WETBACK" ?

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  1. flounder

    flounder In Memoriam Past Donor

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    Not saying it is your problem,,it's societies. You not wanting to change is one thing, but what happens in our country is another, and today it is considered a slur.
    Lets put it this way, next time you run into a bunch of illegals standing on a corner looking for work, call them wetbacks. While you are running for your life explain it to them, I'm sure they will listen...LOL

    I understand your point, truly I do. However WOP was a slur back then as well, and though it may be a perfect description of a people in a situation it's how a person takes it that ultimately defines it being a slur. Just my opinion, and you are entitled to yours.



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  2. protectionist

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    I wouldn't call a bunch of people wetbacks, but I might simply use the word in normal conversation. If any of them chose to attack me they would quickly become the next Trayvon Martin. It might be them who might need to do the running for their life. I disagree that wetback is considered a slur. It many be considered s slur by some people, but not all. Glad you like my taste in music. Too bad we can't get together and jam a bit. I've currently developed a decent rendition for "Crossroads" by Cream (Eric Clapton/Robert Johnson classic blues #)
     
  3. Archie Goodwin

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    It's just a forum, Proty. Don't let it get you feeling too homicidal. It'll be okay, even if all do not agree with you, since, praise babyjesus, many a righty retard litters this site, and love-ins for the abjectly retarded abound.

    It's all good.
     
  4. protectionist

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    He's absolutely INcorrect as I already showed in posts # 379 & 385. :giggle:

    He got it WRONG, and you compounded his wrong, as I already showed in posts # 379 & 385. :giggle:
     
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    LOLOL.. How macho.. You are just itching to prove yourself and kill someone. :roflol:
     
  6. protectionist

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    Thanks coach. But fact is, I use the term wetback all the time, in supermarkets, in parking lots, anywhere really, and have never had anyone threaten me. If they do, I stand my ground. Not my problem. And many a lefty, phony, race carder litters the site, so you've got plenty of company too.
     
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    LOLOL.. Do you really? Its not Affirmative Action that ruined your whole career life.
     
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    LOL. How misinterpreting. In responding to Flounder's comment, I was just saying that I'm quite OK, that's all. Thought it was an open door for you to register a slam ? So sorry. You came to the wrong door. :roflol: :roflol:
     
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    LOL. Boy, that statement really made an impact on you, huh ? Just shows that all your life, you've been walking around in a daze, not even recognizing this simple fact, until I brought it to your attention. Shows how disengaged (from reality) ultra-liberals (or whatever you're calling yourselves these days) are. :giggle:
     
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    Don't forget the good American criminals that hire them, like the man making the comments and his family, selective outrage at its finest.
     
  11. Archie Goodwin

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    Glad to hear it, since try as the rightie retards might to minimize the stupidy of the GOPs villiage idiot, believe me, it's not lost on Hispanics and other minority groups, who are not only increasing as percentage of the voter-base, but as a coalition, already, just keep whipping the Gopniks' prez hopefuls, in EC landslide after EC landslide.

    The DNC couldn't hope for a greater wetdream, politically, than ya'll. Maybe there is a god, and He loves Democrats. How else could fortune shine upon us so greatly?

    Party on, Proty. You're doing God's work, the god that loves Democrats.
     
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    What do you call those that hire illegals?
     
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    Employers
     
  14. Libertarian ForOur Future

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    I think this video should about sum things up. Note: It's highly offensive, has crude language, but the message that everyone is special in their own way is the point of this song (Credit To 'The Free Man', on Libertarians Forum).

    I'm sick of seeing this thread keep popping up, hopefully I can kill this thread with this video. Everyone has a purpose and brings something unique to the table. We should embrace each other as the person they are and accept them for who they are. On one of the other forums I'm on, a perfect statement was made that I will now run with. There is only one race in this world - the human race.

    [video=youtube;DGk6kULEJtU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DGk6kULEJtU[/video]
     
  15. Casper

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    I would call them criminals, since they hired someone they knew was illegal. I am all for immigration reform but it will not work if some "employers" hire people that are not abiding by the rules. The only way to get a hold on the situation is to reform the rules and enforce the ones that stand. Make getting a green card easier, do a background check and approve them if they pass, make them pay into the system while here, arrest and fine anyone caught cheating, including "employers" and if that does not work put them in prison for a while to think about their greedy actions.
     
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    Kinda harsh. I got to Home Depot frequently, and wish I had work I could offer those who are standing around. But I've yet to do so. So maybe many who do give them work, have some humanity behind their reasoning, and not merely greed. Or perhaps the understanding of how they get there: money lenders in needy rural areas in Mexico, pay the border-crossing cartells, and hold the family members hostage to the worker brought over in repaying the loan and interest. Just needy people, trying to live and help their families, in the only way they have available to them.

    But then, I tend to read the tidbit on the Statue of Liberty, and still think it means something, since folks coming here for a better life made, and are making still, America greater. It's an undeniable historical fact of this country.
     
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    I have ZERO problem with them coming here to work, just do it legally.

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  18. JoeSixpack

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    Absolutely they are bigger criminals than the individuals that come here illegally, since they are the one's enticing them to come.
     
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    Meaning the man that made the statements posted in the OP is an admitted criminal. My point all along and one so many want to ignore.
     
  20. JoeSixpack

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    Criminals. Organized criminals to be exact.

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    Exactly what I said a few pages ago. This is the discussion that we should be having. They are the criminals who keep the perpetual wheel of illegal immigration going.
     
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    Even a life boat has a capacity limit, and when it is overfilled, the lives of everybody is threatened and in jeopardy. Sad but true.
     
  22. Archie Goodwin

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    Nice bit of unsubstantiate nonsense in metaphor form. Now for the truth ...

    No; our population density by area is quite sparce, comparatively speaking. Our ability / capability and arable land mass far exceeds our need for food, and in fact, is the still the world's bread basket. And our national debt per capita is far too great for us to bar immigration, since without it, we'd have the problem Russia faces, and thus fears for its future wealth and position in the world: negative population growth.

    So if we can our ignorance and blaming (fear mongering) we'd see that just like in towns across America, when more people move there (to America, too) local (national, too) economies are better-thriving. In fact, many INS raids have decimated local economies, in service of our need for token efforts, while knowing full well, at the Executive level, that immgrants are a benefit, and not harmful to, our economy ... in case you're wonder why all the anti-immigration rhetoric from DC, and yet, policies which are quite opposite. In the end, saying stupid stuff is fine, politically. But doing stupid stuff is, well, stupid.

    Bear in mind what's been growing our GDP. Not innovation. Not thin film solar. Population and inflation. Track it; you'll see. Or just think about owning a lemonade stand. You want to have one in a community of 1,000, or 10,000? Obviously the latter, since you'll sell more lemonade.

    So instead of blaming undocumented workers, fix the problem. Scale wage minimums to a level that consumption drives us nearer full employment. No more, and no less. Just what's needed to serve the population, which if it grows, and all make a decent wage, at a minimum, will pay down our debt with ease, and give us not merely an economy twice the size of China's, but one that's three times, or four times, since we'll not only have the people, but also a huge and empowered middle class, and all the amazing resources this land, taken from natives at the point of a gun, offers us, if we maximize our opportunity. Emphasis on that, MAXIMIZE OPPORTUNITY.

    When we pay poverty wages, and let wages lag behind what's needed for full employment, we lose opportunity. Colgate can live in an economy where there are lots of teeth (opportunity) but not the money by all owner of teeth to buy toothpaste (opportunity loss).
     
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    Let's just go ahead and say at least one thing that many beat around the bush on:

    Some people who are racist and SET terribly in their ways... simply don't want the "BROWN" voter to have substantial political power.

    So with those people yeah, it's fine if you come in to work your ass off... but don't even THINK about coming in here and staying. Some want to make obtaining LEGAL entrance super-hard for those BROWN people as hard as possible.

    Yes, race is a MAJOR factor in all of this "immigration" talk. (Don't let anyone lie to you about that.)
     
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    In 1977 my company disembled and packed up the Delsy factory in our town.. Huge loss to the community.

    We packed it up on flatbeds and it was shipped overseas.
     
  25. Archie Goodwin

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    Indeed, which is why government needs to help communities impacted by globalization, which in the end, benefits our economy in aggregate.

    Consider the benefit to a community with a big employer that makes shoes. Great for the town, and thus local business serving the workers, but not for the country as a whole. Here's why: the shoes are expensively produced, and far higher in cost at the end user price level. So fewer are bought. Same money spent on shoes, but in the purchase of fewer shoes, which impact the largest sector of our economy: services. So there's less work (need for workers) all the down the value chain: no longshore workers. Fewer truck and folks driving them to get the product to market. Smaller warehouses, and fewer workers to manage the goods. Less volume at retail level, and thus fewer folks stocking and sell the good, and fewer bags and packaging of the goods.

    Send a job making shoes to China, who by the way, gets about 6 cents of the dollar in the value-chain, and jobs (multiple) are created in other areas of the economy. Globalism, which in fact is only about 16% or our economy, helps us, in aggregate. But obviously, the manufacturing worker suffers, not because because they lost the job, but because the service job they get instead, pays too little, since we're iditiots, and think it was okie doke to raise pay of manufacturing workers who were paid slave wages, creating the Great American Middle Class, but cannot see the obvious: we create it even greater if we raise service worker's pay, and not go off on some quixotic mission to get manufacturing jobs back, which we never will, unless we start paying our own manufacturing workers less than China, etc, do, which would be stupid.
     

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