Sir Nat. I take no position on the links as I am really not interested in the subject matter. What does interest me though are posters who make ASSumptions and draw conclusions about a given link's position whilst never offering evidence to refute the object of their rants. Just because one is angry at the position of another is not proof or evidence that what has angered them is inaccurate. And that goes for anything here. Let the hand wringing and faux outrage continue.
Why do you want to be the victim of your own imagination? South Africa demographics has the black population around 80% or so. What you cited isn't official or unofficial policy by the govenrment. There are no white South African squalor camps nor is there a ighier percentage of unemployment in whites than blacks. Ir really depends on the provience of what the unemployment rate is, but generally, whites do not suffer from racist policies or racism in South Africa. - - - Updated - - - It's the logical conclusion of your argument.
No such thing as white guilt. and there is no double standard here excpet with you of course. Still does not disporve my point. Making statments from a person can be taken out of context or misconstrued.
You suffer from both as you mocked a poster for bringing up bigotry by blacks. Then provide the 'context' you claim is missing.
Oxford university and the University of Delaware are insane, religious, pro-white, racist blogs? Interesting...... - - - Updated - - - Then you cannot follow the enlightenment because atomism and heliocentrism are irrational religious dogmas. - - - Updated - - - I actually modified my views on that issue some: http://drakeshelton.com/2013/08/03/hell/
THe southern white people were invaded, massacred, tortured, gang raped and impoverished by the united states government. We are the most hated people in the world and yet you people persist thinking that the blacks are the persecuted people.
How? I stated that all ethnic peoples have a right to a homeland. How does that follow that i have to pack up and move thousands of miles away to another country?
Can't answer the question, can you? Can whites be the victims of racism? So what? Shouldn't jobs go to the most qualified regardless of race? Should the US make it their policy to keep 63% of all new job openings for whites only, since that is their percentage in society? Would you support such a policy? Or will we see another wonderful progressive double standard in action? False, on multiple points. Please do better research when responding to my posts from now on. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_South_African The problem with white liberals like you is that you won't give up your job, or your husband's job, to help minorities. You feel you are doing your part by giving away the jobs of other white people.
Show me the taxonomic biological classification for race...it doesn't exist, there is no such biological distinction.... separating people by skin colour is as illogical as separating by eye colour, hair colour, weight, height , shoe size or nose size....
They dont? Imagine the outrage and protest if Bush sang such a song about American blacks while whites carried out massive murder campaigns against them. lol nah that wouldnt be racist would it?.......i mean you just said whites dont suffer racism in South Africa so it couldnt be racist.
Yep. The hypocrisy is what opened my eyes to what was wrong with much of religion. I'm a man of faith myself... but if I'm not 'living' what I believe (or cannot believe something period), I'm honest within myself and with others. I don't 'fake' it to garner acceptance by other "Christians". I'm not perfect, so I no longer expect others to be. We're all 'human'.
That's an interesting analogy, but it leaves out an important factor associated with skin color, and that is geography. It's not the color of the skin that separates us into races. It's our geographic origins and migrations over time. Given the importance of geography in race; isn't it logical that people of different color have different cultures, rule sets, etc? Now we're talking about real differences between us, and not just skin color. We're talking about religion and philosophy, which are important considerations when people pursue peace.
The biggest problem today is that the term racism is beginning to lose its effectiveness. That's because there is an industry in America which is invested in ensuring it never ceases to exist. This industry has gotten to the point where virtually every problem in America can be traced back to racism. They've even gone so far as to say if you believe that all men are created equal, you are accused of being a racist.
Why do you think that is? Is it because of your skin color?.... Is it because of your religion?..... Is it because of your morals?.... Can't be because of your skin, for the rest of the white people in the world aren't "hated" like you say..... Can't be because of your religion, for the rest of the Christians in the world are not "hated".... Can't be because of your morals, for the rest of the world that shares your morals are not hated..... Hmmmm, what could cause you to think the world hates "southern white people"..... could it be the "ideology"? That seems to be the only identifier not shared with the rest of the world......
Whether you like it or not blacks can be racists towards whites. By-and large people dismiss it as irrelevant because of the old and tired slavery crutch.
guess you don't know what the word "or" means or is "parentage" the one that gives you trouble? Accident of birth is a phrase pointing out that no one has any control of, or responsibility for, the circumstances of their birth or parentage I am aware that the place of birth is a circumstance. And I am not conflating anything. It is your rather embarassing misread of the definition of what an accident of birth is. Hello Mcfly??!!! The definition of the phrase I posted is DIRECTLY FROM THE LINK I ALSO POSTED. Male and female are not individual races they are members of the same race. And yes, a person's gender is also an accident of birth, predicated on the configuration of chromosomes at conception. you might want to learn a little about cultural anthropology. There are hundreds of books written about the development and evolution of culture and the scientific consensus does not attribute that phenomena to color. I am not at all using ad hoc reasoning, but you are definitely begging the question. This is a nonsensical argument, as it appears you don't know what exponential means. Drake Shelton is a racist and a religious nutter. Sounds like the perfect kind of thought leader for white power nationalists. Either that is a truly stunning demonstration of incomprehension or yet another use of logical fallacy. either way its a dumb comment. Proof? Let's see. Would you accept perhaps... the history and cultures of say, europe? Or shall we get a little more esoteric (for a white man) and examine the history and cultures of eastern and south eastern asia? Ah, so you first use DR. Bakers opinions on race and then claim them as irrelevant. Are you aware of who Livingston was? Nope, no 19th century colonial cultural bias there.
Answered the question but the answer is not what you wanted to hear. That being said, there is a difference between biotry and racism. It is very rare to experience racism. To experience racism, a goups would have to be hated for anything and everythnig no matter what any person did in that goup or did not do. And that is why I said that you are imagining things. On principle yes. but the more important question is how to define what is best and what is not. Affirmative Action does not have less qualified people hold an office nor is AA a racist policy. What AA does is not allow biotry or racism to be used in hiring. And to define best is like trying to define the perfect cherry blossum (I am not referring to the game here). No, I want the best peroson for the job and I do not consider race, but other attributes. It apears that you define best qualified sim;ply by race and do not consider other factors, or ignore tham altogether. To me, that sound like ignorance.
Ethnic white people are not from Asia, Africa, or the Americas. It is only Europe. If we follow the logical conclusion of your post, that is exactly what you will have to do.
Another dodge to answer the question directly. Once again, here is the question. A "yes" or "no" answer will be sufficient. Can whites be the victims of racism? Did you just make up that definition of "racism" just now? Feel free to substantiate your claim that "to experience racism, a goups(sic) would have to be hated for anything and everythnig(sic) no matter what any person did in that goup(sic) or did not do." So a hiring policy that uses race to determine who gets hired "does not allow bigotry or racism to be used in hiring"? You realize that makes absolutely no sense, right? You are a supporter of Affirmative Action. By definition, you support hiring policies that "consider race". Only by defying logic in a mindboggling fashion can you dance around that fact. Mod edit,,flounder
Nothing in the article suggests or even attempts at the reason for murders. That being said, it is dubious to say that it is becasue of racism and more likely becasue of other factors. For instance, if Pistorius is found guilty of murdering his girlfriend, it will becasue of the facts of the case, not the skin color of who pulled the trigger or who the murder victim's skin color.
