What's Trump gonna do?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Locke/erasmusjefferson, Jan 19, 2017.

  1. Borat

    Borat Banned

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    It's actually very simple. If NATO members are as committed to the unity and to keeping the organization as you say they are, all they need to do is to stop cheating and start paying their contractually obligated membership dues, which they haven't for decades Duh
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    100% false.

    they have all paid their required dues.
     
  3. FAW

    FAW Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You say that you see a connection that you BELIEVE makes it "possible that Putin could manipulate Trump", and you proceed to state as fact that Putin "WILL control the Presidency". You aren't stating a fact, you are engaging in over the top fear mongering. This type of nonsensical, bombastic rhetoric is a colossal waste of time. It doesn't make sense. Even IF Putin did release the Podesta emails, and that did CLEARLY hand Trump the presidency( which it did not), how would that give him power over Trump? Typically the power of control to which you are referring ( blackmail) would be relative to having some information that he is threatening to release, it would not be about a favor that they did in the past. A past favor in any situation may give someone favored status, but certainly NOT control of the future. A past favor does not give someone the power to blackmail, which is essentially what you are alleging when you say he will therefore control the presidency.
     
  4. Borat

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    YOU said they haven't paid their required dues to NATO.

    and that is 100% false.

    what they haven't done, is spent a certain percentage of GDP on their own military.

    its not a requirements. Its not yearly dues. Its a mere suggestion.
     
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    The DNC sabotaged the DNC. Don't be ridiculous.
     
  7. Borat

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    Spending 2% of GDP on the military is "their required membership dues", it's their NATO membership contractual responsibility and 23 out of 28 NATO members have been failing to meet it for decades. Grow up, your hair splitting is embarrassing.

    No worries though, you new president will make them pay what they owe.
     
  8. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is a difference between being "tough" and militarily attacking.

    At no time has Trump hinted at military action against Iran or China or their militaries. Clinton did - repeatedly.
     
  9. Ronstar

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    you are 100% wrong.

    NATO is an organization that has an operating budget, that is funded by actual payments from NATO members to the central orgization. And all members pay their required dues.

    http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_67655.htm?
     
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    squidward Well-Known Member

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    Another yawner of an OP.
    Zyprexa can help with the voices
     
  11. Borat

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    NATO's official guidelines say member states should spend at least 2% of their GDP on defense. Of the 28 countries in the alliance, only five -- the U.S., Greece, Poland, Estonia and the U.K. -- meet the target.

    The rest lag behind. Germany spent 1.19% of its GDP on defense last year, France forked out 1.78%.

    http://money.cnn.com/2016/07/08/news/nato-summit-spending-countries/

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    should spend, but its not a requirement of NATO membership.

    NATO's operating budget is fully funded by its membership.
     
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    Remember Hilary Clinton INSISTING NO FOREIGN GOVERNMENT HACKED HER ACCOUNT? NOW she and Democrats are ranting that Russia did.

    What we learned, either way, is that Hilary Clinton and the DNC could not possibly be trusted with the security of this country as they truly didn't give a damn and acted with more recklessness than any of us do. Do ANY of you have your password as "password"? THAT is how reckless they are.

    Clinton and the Democrats also then are INSISTING that RUSSIA read the 600 emails from Ambassador Stevens in Libya that he didn't have sufficient security. It seems clear that it was HILARY CLINTON who informed the attackers of the vulnerability of Ambassador Stevens and our consulate. I don't think Ambassador Stevens ever imagined that Secretary of State Clinton was broadcasting his emails to the entire world.

    It is truly bizarre to claim that the DNC and Clinton would essentially put all their emails out for public view - and then RANT "UNFAIR!" and "INTERFERENCE!" and claim "ACT OF WAR!" if anyone reads or sees them.That essentially is exactly what Clinton and Podesta did. If Clinton and the Democrat leadership REALLY see Putin and Russia as the enemy, they would have not made their emails available to Putin, Russia and essentially any and all hackers and foreign intelligence services in the world. Now would she have broken the law by giving access to her girlfriend or Weiner.
     
  14. Locke/erasmusjefferson

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    Fine. Putin has POWER, but not CONTROL. You put up a good argument, but the point is that Trump may not be able to properly operate as president if Putin has blackmail material.
     
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    It is now. If the alliance is important to them, they must meet their required level of defense spending. If Poland and Estonia can do it, so can the other 23 deadbeats. The numbers in the image below are not acceptable.

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    Locke/erasmusjefferson New Member

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    Do you support Trump? I am asking you a direct question, here.
     
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    There is a great deal of evidence that Russians hacked the DNC and Podesta.

    They also hacked the Dutch MH17 investigators and the IOC.
     
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    According to who? Do you really think intelligence is going to tell the public the truth? What was it that McAffee said? If it appears that the Russians hacked the DNC, I assure it was wasn't them? I fully believe there is a cave underneath DC that runs things we don't even fathom. Yes, it's crazy. But the US government won't even tell us the truth about UFOs. Why anything else? :grin:
     
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    um...what about the UFOs?

    LOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!

    too funny. :)
     
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    That's yet another Obama's and the Dems' spectacular failure. Lest we forget that if they hacked the DNC they undoubtedly hacked Hillary's unsecure and mismanaged private server as well with its troves of state secrets and classified information.
     
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    He isn't conservative. He is a populist, meaning does whatever he thinks the people want at the time. He is no actual views or ideals of his own. Before 2008, he was considered a staunch liberal and supported many liberal causes. After Obama was elected, he realized the tea party could be easily swayed into believing or supporting anyone who opposed Obama, so he started supporting alt-right causes and bam, we have what we have now.
     
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    What blackmail material ?
     
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    Where is the evidence. I have seen none and none had been presented.

    I don't know about that. Again, no evidence of hacking anywhere other than mere say-so, so I'm not obligated to believe anyone without evidence.
     
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    I knew that would get a belly laugh. :wink:
     
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    That question has already been answered.
     

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