What's your favorite Trump lie?

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  1. [url=https://www.thewrap.com/trump-falsley-claims-millions-of-people-voted-illegally-popular-vote/]

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  2. [url=https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-claims-thousands-in-jersey-city-cheered-911-terrorist-attack

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  3. [url=https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/nov/23/donald-trump/trump-tweet-blacks

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  4. [url=https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2017/02/16/trump-falsely-claims-biggest

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  1. dagosa

    dagosa Well-Known Member

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    Well, that was a litany of contradictions. Unfortunately, the very few women candidates on the right are just as uninformed as their male counterparts.
     
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    Like AGW is a Chinese hoax and 3 million illegals were bussed to California and one million into NH to vote for Dems. Do the math. 50 people per bus divided into 4 million is 80, 000 busses that no one noticed. That’s the truth that no one can handle because it’s so ludicrous. Is this math too hard ?
     
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    fish stories maybe, lies definately not... peeps need to get a grip and stop hanging on every syllable from trump's mouth... everyone on the planet exaggerates , yeah i said everyone...
     
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    Stop hanging on every word of Hillary who hasn’t been in public office for 7 years.
    Trump has a big effect on the integrity of NASA, the fbi and other agencies. Trump is a criminal. He lies like a criminal. You may not think that’s important for a president to have a modicum of integrity, cause after all, you’re a fan.
     
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    Which one are you ?
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    I assume you're left wing, hence the contradiction in the first part of your post.

    We all lie, period. There are many types of liar, we all lie for different reasons and the frequency changes. Presidents lie, Trump lies, Obama lied, everyone lies.

    In which situation is a lie acceptable, how naughty on a scale of one go ten can the lie be. To who's criteria do you follow or is the term called Cherry Picking?

    So fumble over the issue as much as you want, we all lie. And don't forget, "You can keep your doctor".
     
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    Good grief, Santa was just purely used an obvious example :rolleyes:
     
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    I don't support or not support Trump in lying. Like you, me, Obama and the rest of the planet, Trump lies. I will go over old ground. We all lie for different reasons/intentions, to different frequencies when we need or have too. Some lie when they don't have to.

    There are right times and reasons to lie and wrong times and reasons to lie.

    The lying style of Trump is manipulator. Looking up the different lying styles gives insight to lying in general. Trump knows when he lies, pathological liar don't.

    This thread is play ground level; he's the biggest liar, no you are, no you are, I'm gonna tell my mom on you.
     
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    “You can keep your doctor".

    Wow, OBama one, Trump ten thousand.
    “You can keep your doctor “ Gotcha.
    That’s borderline the most out of touch post a Trump Humper could give. It’s laughable if it wasn’t so sad.
     
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    Btw, when Trump uses a fish story to form an “illegal voting” committee to prove his insane hypothesis, it’s now not laughable. It collapsed under its own weight when states were asked to violate voting confidentiality.
     
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    Lmfao.

    Go full brain power and try to relate that to my full post.
     
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    I think trump lies pathologically as well. I think he actually believes he is a stable genius with one of the world's greatest memories.

    OTOH, despite the churlish nature of this thread, one cannot excuse trump's mendacity merely by the fact that every human being on the planet lies. The number and scope of his lies is unprecedented in Presidential history. Ahead by miles, a slam dunk.

    Couple this outrageous mendacity with a demonstrable lack of ethics and low morals and you get the train wreck that is Deranged Donald.
     
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    You'll give him a a stroke with suggestions like that Nonnie
     
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    He lies to manipulate, it's not pathological.

    Manipulation lying may have worked business wise behind closed doors, but in front of the camera, it makes him look stupid. But that's Trump and he ain't gonna change due to a handful of Political Forum posters.

    To support someone does not mean you support every facet of that person. And to support what? I support anyone/everyone who takes on the political correct establishment crap that has eroded the Western world. So I support Trump in shaking up the wet flannels hornet nest, I don't support his need to lie. Not supporting something does not support this stupid crazy impeachment idea the Democrats are bleating on about.
     
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    I totally agree he lies to manipulate. He is a master of it. Helps he has absolutely no shame - thanks cohn.

    OTOH, I also believe he is pathological in his lying, in that he actually believes many of his lies, particularly when it comes to his personal abilities or lack thereof.

    I understand that many trumpettes are prepared to prioritize certain policy objectives over all else and are willing to defend the lying, cheatin' corruption of the man they believe is the vehicle to get achieve those limited policy objectives regardless of the price.

    And impeachment sure as hell ain't a crazy idea. He is an accused criminal already, or are you forgetting he is co conspirator in crimes that another individual is going to jail for. He is guilty as sin of obstruction of justice.

    this ain't over by a long shot.
     
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    Trump has trouble with the truth but not in a pathological way. He manipulates and the distinction is he's deliberate in his deceit/fabrication. He knows it's wrong.

    Pathological liars go from one lie to the next, then the next and do on, usually without control. They also spread lies when there's nothing to be gained whereas Trump needs to gain.

    Trump is authoritarian so he manipulates, stretches, spins, exaggerates to get what he wants and to get attention.

    Sorry, but many say pathological but they don't know what it fully means.

    And IMO, impeachment is a waste of time, just look at the two cases in history.
     
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    okay.

    Yeah, I mean its only a matter of principle so why bother.
     
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    Why not quote the CDC directly?

    Oh! That is right! THEY do not cherry pick facts!

    Ever heard of a condition called “Post measles encephalitis” No? Don’t blame you it is RARE but I have seen a case. Poor wee thing went from a vibrant interactive child to a floppy barely responsive body in a pram within weeks

    The vaccine does not prevent this disorder BUT it makes it much much much rarer

    https://www.cdc.gov/measles/about/complications.html
     
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    Wishful thinking if you believe Trumps lies are not a symptom of pathology

    No one said he was a pathological liar - he is a narcissist who lies to make himself look better

    EVERY lie he tells inflates his self worth or is a validation of something he believes in despite facts to the contrary - his lies show how LAZY he is. He does not bother fact checking (vaccinations, china and global warming etc)

    I think my favourite Trumpism is him standing in front of the CEO of Lockheed telling her that the jet is “literally invisible” If it obvious he has only half listened and half understood but has the chutzpah to try and fob off his intense ignorance
     
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    No ligit response ? ..ha ha, just a clueless insult ? Why not get off partial brain power cruise control.
    . Why you even put out this bogus referral to Obama is clueless. The reason why you may not keep your doctor, had nothing directly to do with Obama care. It was due to the right doctors always had, to refuse patients under plans they did not like and gop states that chose not to participate. The gop govs chose your doctors when they did this.
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    Ha ha
    Exactly. And who supports him ? People with similar traits.
    We have posts by supporters that think it’s natural for everyone to lie all the time about anything. Well, that’s great. Might as well not bother getting a marriage license.
     
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