When Abortion is exploitation, and the nature of "Choice"

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  1. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    It is odd how that poster dwells on horrible scenarios about women ....
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If there's really "no right answer", then why would it really be all that terrible to make them choose one choice rather than another?
     
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    Yet another misogynist thread where the OP pretends to care about women's choices in order to demand they not be given choices. Throw in the fantasies about mutilating women's genitals and this is really sicj stuff.
     
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    DUH, because MAKING them "choose" is NOT A CHOICE for them..


    Why are you so interested in MAKING women do things?
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Interesting examples. Replacing "feeling pushed" with "Government force" is not an improvement.

    Where did you get the "eat the baby" example?
     
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  6. UntilNextTime

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    Out of threads listed in the abortion basket, I thought this would be a good thread to put my 2 cents worth in.

    Do you know why abortions are being pushed so vehemently?
    There is a huge market for aborted fetal tissue. Yep, that's right. It was a very clandestine operation, but with all these abortion laws pretending
    to give rights to freedom for women to choose, it is all the push to further make it more 'ethical' (in those involved heads) to be able to harvest abundantly
    fetal tissue from these abortions.

    In the Market for Fetal Body Parts, a Baby’s Brain Sells for $3,340
    Pfizer admits to using aborted fetal tissue in developing its vaccines. So can Christians sign up for a jab exemption now?
    List of companies using fetal cells from aborted babies to flavour products
     
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    People should be exempt from pharma products for any reason they choose.

    As far as fetus flavored products, I was unable to find a credible source.

    I can see the argument for not selling body parts, but I can also understand not throwing them in the trash if they can be used to help others. I am an organ donor and I hope the parts I am no longer using can help someone one day.

    If I was selling my brain, I can get top dollar. (Its barely used!)
     
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    Just saying,

    do you think these companies what us to know this? That's why we have independent/alternatives to source this knowledge/information. God forbid if we knew this was going on via MSM who are all in on the same :icon_shithappens: show.

    Maybe an overgeneration on the links part, rather than fetus flavour, fetus parts are used to enhance the flavours, and I bet for other nefarious purposes. Do you add powdered fetus tissue to your meals?
     
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    Obviously, MSN would not report fetal flavoring, but FOX or Breitbart would. Personally, I do not consume processed foods.
     
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    I have a very limited intake. But most definitely, processed foods are the literal baby's pram. Full of :icon_shithappens:, broken biscuits and fetal tissue. upload_2022-7-1_4-17-22.gif
     
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    You are picking particular situations that are problematic.

    BUT, the situations you choose do NOT cover this issue.

    There are complications with pregnancy where there is a very real risk of serious harm or death of the woman. But, risks come with percentages that are the educated experience and training of the doctor. There is NO law covering that, and the result is that doctors are in the dark on what they may do to help the woman survive. Today, doctors are ending up consulting hospital lawyers, hospital board chairmen, prosecutors, and even legislators in hopes of finding out whether they are ALLOWED to help the woman, or if helping the woman means they risk losing their license to practice medicine, or being put in prison.

    There are many cases such as that, but an easy one to communicate is cancer, where treatment would be seriously detrimental to the fetus. Is the woman allowed to get the cancer treatment she needs to survive?

    Further, you write off issues you call "life circumstances". But, those are very real. In our society we allow women to go without prenatal and postnatal care on the grounds that they can't pay. We have women who can not afford to be out of work, who struggle to pay for food and housing. Are rape victims to be forced to lose their education opportunity? Etc., etc. Writing off the real world as merely "circumstances" is obviously not acceptable. Circumstances ARE the real world.
     
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    forcing a rape victim to have her rapists baby is like raping her a second time
     
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    Yes indeed.
    If the morning after pill is taken straight away, there is no issue. It is still a life when it is a late-term abortion.
     
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    agree, the morning after pill should be in every rape kit

    sadly, some anti-choicers are against the pill
     
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    Yes, except some rape victims are not in any shape to decide on things like rape kits and the "morning after" pill....

    Please don't be like the OP who thinks women are not harmed by rape.
     
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    So much supposition so few facts

    The REAL reasons for abortion

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    But republicans never want to talk about this issue
     
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    It's obvious opinions don't matter, except your own.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Yes, except some rape victims are not in any shape to decide on things like rape kits and the "morning after" pill....

    Please don't be like the OP who thinks women are not harmed by rape.

    What's that supposed to mean and why couldn't you address the post of mine you quoted??
     
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    I did.

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    FoxHastings said:
    Yes, except some rape victims are not in any shape to decide on things like rape kits and the "morning after" pill....

    Please don't be like the OP who thinks women are not harmed by rape.




    :) I see you are once again, stumped :)
     
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    Normal people would point out the error, rather than ridicule it.
     
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    There are essentially zero late term abortions where the life of the mother isn't at stake. Plus, there are already laws against purely discretionary late term abortions.

    So, I'm not sure what you are hoping for with your comment on such abortions.

    And, I don't see your comment on morning after medication as covering the issue, either. Rape and incest does not mean medical care is requested or given.

    Plus, those dedicated to forcing girls to have babies are also opposed education on morning after medication - or other contraception, for that matter.
     
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    If you followed the bouncing ball, you'd see I was in agreement with another. Adding to it also.
     
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    Opportunity for expressing your opinion. Seriously.

    Should a 10 yo girl be required to give birth?

    There are girls of that age who are victims of rape and incest, and usually don't know what there options are, especially given the demand for no sex education in our schools. So, one can not assume "morning after medication" or an opportunity for contraception.
     
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