'When has it ever become legal to shoot someone because they’re pulling off in your car?'

You read the statistics right? The answer is in those stats. Do you need them explained to you?

 

At what point could you, dairyair, shoot someone in your house?

 

What if it were a situation where it was life or death? Could you kill out of self defense? Trust me....the last thing I ever want to do is take a life. But if it’s him or me? I pick me all day every day.

 

Stealing a car is a felony. The attached might be interesting. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleeing_felon_rule

 

Won't know until that situation arises. I would likely kill if it was he/she or I.
I think most would.

You, you'd say you shoot someone over a tv? I may have you mixed up with others who say they will.

 

I'm one of the guys lying prone at the top of the stairs protecting my family. I don't care about the stuff downstairs.

 

I've said self defense is perfectly fine to kill.
I probably could.

 

The big question is "when does shooting someone in your house turn from killing a simple thief to self-defense", and the answer is typically "the point where you are in fear of your life". That's a fairly personal decision that needs to be made immediately.

 

How predictable that for the most part it is Democrats defending criminals. It always is. Why? Why do Democrats defend everyone on the WRONG side of nearly every topic? Criminals over victims. Non-Americans over Americans. Criminals over police. Adversarial governments over our government. Enemy over our military.

 

Balance. A human life in one hand, a TV in the other. Which weighs more? Which is more significant?

 

I think you know when your life is in danger.

 

Okay; this is pretty simple for me.

Any and all small arms are protected arms. Explosives, rockets, bombs, etc. are all ordnance not suited for conventional personal security applications, and as such should be restricted.

 

still waiting for anyone to defend using deadly force to protect a toaster.

 

The standard that needs to be met is called the "Reasonable person standard"; i.e. would a reasonable person in the same situation feel at risk of death or great bodily injury? If so, then you are legally justified in resorting to deadly force to defend yourself.

 

I don't give a crap about a toaster, or any inanimate object; but someone inside my home who has no business being there is automatically going to be treated as a deadly threat to myself and/or my loved ones, and dealt with accordingly.

 

and what if he escapes your home, and is running away with your toaster?

you still gonna end his life?

 

N.Y.S. penal code does not provide for use of lethal force in defense of Toaster Oven, if an alleged Thief is running away from one's home.

 

Wow, that is a great quote. I have to remember it. Good to post on social media. I could even add Obama over Trump.

-pete-

 

When guns are banned every kind of "restricted" weapon will eventually become available .

 

nor should it.

u should only be allowed to use deadly force to save a life or prevent an arson.

 

Whenever a dangerous felon is killed by an armed citizen the entire community benefits.

 

The N.Y.S. Penal code was required material, before it was available online, the loose leaf updateable subscription version, was what many used.

You received update pages in the mail, and subtracted the out of date pages.

 

Very true.

 

The statistics have been read, but they do not provide an answer. Simply because a murder is unlikely to result from a property-based crime being committed, does not mean that it does not happen. The question is how many lives need to be lost in property-related crimes, before it can no longer be argued that the crime is solely about the property? How many individuals must be murdered before it is no longer safe to dismiss property-related crimes as not being a threat to the property owner?

Statistically speaking, mass shootings and school shootings are extremely rare, extremely isolated incidents, that at best result in one percent of the annual murder rate for the united states in a given year when they are all added together. Yet despite being statistically rare, and statistically being the least likely cause of death, there is nothing but blind hysteria concerning them.

 

Again, the answer is in the stats. Not sure why you are struggling with this.