When/If Impeachment goes to the Senate...

What crime(s) did he commit?
How do you know?
Cite the source and quote the text to that effect.

 

Trump's political rival.

 

Actually that wasn't the gist of my OP. I just tried to look at it from all sides and give probabilities on possible consequences.

But think on what you just said for a moment. If there are people that support Trump, and would rather vote for Tulsi, a Democrat, over Trump then perhaps there is common ground between Trump supporters and the Democratic Party...or at least the old Democratic Party. The current socialist democratic members of the Democratic party isn't what the old Democratic Party was about. And here's the thing...I'm an Independent. I don't stand for any particular party. I never have and never will as I consider parties a detriment to our nation. They cause too much divisiveness. But I do see positives in both the Democratic Party issues AND the Republican Party issues....I also see the bad in both. For instance I am all for pro-choice while Republicans are not. I am also pro-2nd Amendment while the Democratic party is not.

 

There are several aspects of this that would put a number of Democrats in jeopardy.

Schiff has already thrown a few people under the bus so I doubt that he would care about who else's career he might damage.

I also doubt that the Dems would be foolish enough to bring this to a vote.

Meanwhile, a few folks might just get indicted by Barr and Durham. .

 

Non responsive to the point that a Senate trial would impact BOTH parties ability to campaign.

Why did you leave this part out of your quote from your link?

 

The longer the senate sits in this trial the more of an incumbrance it will be on Senators. This is a republican senate. If they want to sit in Washington month after month, listening to testimony on the crimes of the titular leader of their party, while their opponents travel all through their states, attending fundraisers, and talking about local issues with local media, and showing up for those photo-ops, then we can watch that Senate turn Democratic come November right along with the House. . I know the Democrats in the House fully intend to be on the campaign trail.

As for the impact of a long trial on the Presidential campaign, it will be an incumbrance on those Senators who run but we have plenty of candidates who are not senators and Trump will be as distracted as those senators are. Its not that he can't compaign. Its that he will keep shooting himself in the foot every other day, as long as there is testimony about him to listen to. The man fixates on this stuff. He can't stop watching Fox and CNN and let it go. He won't be proposing bold new initiatives or looking for ways to woe independents. No He will be insulting and smearing and calling names and lying and embarrassing himself throughout that trial.

In other words he will impress his base who like a President that rolls in the mud, and fail to impress anyone else who does not.

 

Please cite this "requirement" for imaginary "permission to leave".

 

Libertarianism FAILED when it was tried under the original Articles of Confederation. It failed again in Kansas and in Louisiana.

We have our current Constitution with a STRONG Federal government to UPHOLD our INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS in ALL states.

It is the states that are trying to take away individual rights with minority voter suppression and depriving women of their reproductive freedom.

 

The GOP has been SUPPRESSING the RIGHTS of minorities to vote for decades now.

The GOP has been trying to take away women's reproductive rights for even longer.

Neither has resulted in a civil war.

 

So you NEED a STRONG Federal government to secure those rights!

 

Which holy text defines your rights?

 

Wrong!

The government IS We the People so therefore we control ourselves.

 

That still leaves Sundays and evenings.

A surrogate could hold an evening rally and the Senator could appear and give their speech via the internet. They could even have Q and A sessions remotely.

 

Good points!

Just look at how he added witness intimidation to the articles of impeachment while the witness was testifying to Congress.

 

I agree with Pelosi. Dems would be smarter to keep this simple, clean and tidy and resist the temptation to throw much more into the mix. . The more articles they send to the floor, the more testimony they have to take, and the easier it will be for the GOP to distract, derail and distort this process in a fog of details and counter accusations until voters are too fatigued to care. That is exactly what happened with the Mueller report. We want a pithy and precise set of accusations, no more that two or three.

 

Yup, the KISS principle applies when dealing with complex issues like these.

 

Lol.

 

Will Trump appear in the Senate Trail (if there is one?) Will he give evidence? My bet is that he will not.

 

Only a fool would allow the BLOTUS to testify under oath.

However that does not mean that it won't happen.

 

Neither of those are in the BoR's.

 

Wrong!

They are BOTH covered by the 9th Amendment!

 

If that were true then why are there separate amendments for voting? Oh right...because the 9th Amendment doesn't cover it. Nor does it cover reproductive Rights. Not even Roe v Wade established any such "right".

 

I do think Collins will vote to remove. If the Republicans primary her out, they lost the Maine seat. Collins is the only Republican in Maine that can win that state. So the question is, does the GOP think short term revenge or long term control of the senate? Murkowski who isn't up for reelection may be another one to vote AYE on removal. You do have Jones, Alabama who is up this time and Manchin, West Virginia who may vote NAY, against removal. Trump has a 60% and 61% approval rating in those two states.

Trump is at 46% in Arizona, 47% in North Carolina which is close enough to ensure McSally and Tillis toe the party line. Iowa, Trump is at 42% approval 54% disapproval, if Ernst vote Nay, she'll probably lose in November. If she votes AYE, she'll be primaried out. Either way, it means another senate pickup for the democrats.

 

Not nearly as much as those running for President and no need I was commenting on those saying they could drag it out.

 

Mueller Report, Volume II, details eight specific acts of obstruction of justice.