When will religion be overteken by logic?

Because to the best of our knowledge nothing provably did. Science can go back no further at this point than that cosmic singularity. To speculate about what happened before the big bang is to engage in a faith based discussion not a science.based one.

 

Never mind that it stood on it's head several prescedents for doing exactly what paintiff wanted.

 

yep, they do not know what happened, they could use God as a place holder I suppose, but many are looking for the truth

 

Whichever god exists could just come down, reveal itself/himself/herself and tell each person what to believe and what not to, what to do and what not to, completely take the human element out of it. This god(s) is all powerful, shouldn't be hard right?

 

And for all anyone can prove right now God may well be the truth.

 

No, the reason that Christians have fought against evolution forever is that "god did it" and any effort to find out how is absolutely unacceptable to them.

The same goes with abiogenesis. In the past, the same went with opposition to a heliocentric planetary system, with the reason for having a heart (which Christians believed was as a residence for the "soul"), and on and on. It's the same with the "big bang".

Don't tell me that Christians have fought for a better understanding through science in cases where they believed that "god did it". That's just not supportable.

 

yep, if one wants to use "God" is a place holder for the "unknown" - they can have at it

 

This isn't actually true. Physicists point to something short of that. Physicists will state clearly that it is not know that this universe started from something infinitely tiny or out of nothing, etc.

In fact, ideas that guide the continuing scientific investigation of what happened "before" or "around" include the idea that the "big bang" was a localized event in a far larger reality. Christians who want to attack the big bang often claim that the big bang started from nothing - that it was a creation event. But, physicists claim only that there was an incredibly rapid inflation. And, today it is clear that we continue to see an inflation, but of minuscule proportions to that.

 

What does "prove" even mean when applied to god?

It certainly has no meaning in science.

Are you suggesting that RELIGION has the means to prove there is no god - or that there IS a god???

For instance, can Christianity prove that the god of some other religion doesn't exist?

When you say "prove" in relation to the existence of some god I just have to wonder what you might even mean.

 

When science doesn't have an answer they say "I don't know". That does not mean "god did it". It is a common answer when we just don't have the technology, budget or other ability to investigate enough to have an answer.

Speculation and faith are dramatically different. Speculation is the beginning of science. Faith is counter to science.

 

Evidently the meaning of "non sequitur" eludes you.

My disbelief in other "gods" isn't anything like your disbelief in God.

Non sequitur,, as He could hardly do that and end up with children who cleave to Him of their own free will.

Then He'd be the devil.

Like Hell it does.

He does all that, at least by way of conscience, but not to people who want nothing to do with Him.

 

lol, oh, so you mean bad new religions sometimes make old religions look better, ok, I can see where your coming from

I was thinking new 'as in better'.... you saw new 'as in worse'... guess were both right

like Did Christianity improve the Sun God religion was my thinking

 

Never. There will never be proof that a higher bean did not create the Universe, nor proof he did. This is where faith comes in. And faith in a higher God has existed in all cultures since the beginning of the first culture. So believe what you want, but science isn't close to proving the origin of the Universe until they can answer how something can be created from nothing

 

Perhaps he could be born to a virgin girl, preach his word, allow himself to be killed, and then come back from the dead to show his power. Shouldn't be hard, right?

 

I just assumed that UFOTV was the producer.

 

So no media has reported on it?

 

No connection between the Bible and the Sumerian religion is even a serious atheistic discussion! Do you even have a reputable atheist website that discusses it?

 

the bible was based on the Sumerian religion, it's basically a re-write

 

regardless if they were or not, the video is still interesting and accurate, the bible was based on the Sumerian religion, it's pretty obvious

 

So it's a serious discussion in the atheist community?

 

So you know all about it do you?

 

I do not belong to any atheist communities... but it's a fact none the less

 

they see the similarities and it scares them, cause there is no doubt Sumerian texts came first.... which means the bible was a re-write of the Sumerian religion

"The Annunaki In The Bible"

http://www.annunaki.org/the-annunaki-in-the-bible/

 

Well then where did you come across this video?

 

google search

"The origins of human beings according to ancient Sumerian texts"

https://www.ancient-origins.net/new...-beings-according-ancient-sumerian-texts-0065

"The Annunaki In The Bible"

http://www.annunaki.org/the-annunaki-in-the-bible/