Where’s My Global Warming?

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  1. Taxcutter

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    But the arctic the arctic!!!

    Of course arctic ice extent is way way more a representation of wind direction than it is temperature, southerly winds and the ice is broken up and pushed south where it melts, northerly winds and it is compacted and gets thicker, but warmmongers don't like to talk about that.
     
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    Yes very selective stuff. I notice the first item. Coldest day in Sydney. Three months early the National Weather Service had to introduce a new color to thermal maps, because the whole continent was experiencing record high temperatures
     
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    Talk about pot calling the kettle etc .......Given what the AGW alarmists have been doing for the last 25 years or more thats a bit rich I must say ! :shock:
     
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    No pots or kettles involved. You and Taxcutters inability to distinguish between climate and weather is well documented around here. You want to insist in using the media as your primary source of science, pretty gives you what you pay for
     
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    My views are well documented ? What over my whole 70 posts here ? You know nothing about me whatsoever. Remember the skeptic position isnt the one with the shonky hypothesis to defend . Anyone for jolly old hockeysticks ,you get my point I hope ? :roll:
     
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    You don't live in Texas do ya, nice and warm here and we are in our tenth year of drought. A couple of cool days does not mean global warming is not happening.
     
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    A good skeptic does not rely on the media for information about current scientific theory
     
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    The Earth has been considerably warmer over recent millenia than it is today. There are certain high profile scientists promoting this scam that should be up on fraud charges by now in my view.

    Arctic Ice core temperature data (Kobashi 2011)

    kobashi_2011_fig1.png
     
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    You are right and thats why I dont. I wasnt presenting my links as evidence of anything other than the global variability of weather often used by alarmists to buttress thier views when it suits yet discarded and ignored when it doesnt
     
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    You cannot say there is no global warming then turn around and say there is. You seem to be confused between Global Warming and Manmade Global Warming, I never mentioned the later topic and they are seperate topics.
     
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    Please prove that mankind is responsible for the current warming phase given it started long before we could ever have influenced it. Until theres some kind of empirical evidence pointing at this current phase being somehow unnatural then its all just so much hot air .... pardon the pun.
     
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    You seem confused, where did I say mankind is a cause? Can mankind affect the climate, I am sure he can, we have proven it on land and in the oceans. I am more of mind to where we do as little or no harm as possible and where possible correct some of the damage we have caused, we are caretakers not owners of the planet, leave it better than you found it where possible.
    Gobal warming is a FACT, whether it is mankinds fault in part really makes no difference if we are doing the best we can, are we?
     
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    What happens happens just like it always has and always will. This guilt ridden anal gazing we are being programmed to engage in serves no purpose other than the emptying our wallets for the sole benefit of those promoting it.
     
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    Are you still at the elementary level of understanding CLIMATE change? It's not WEATHER change. Learn the difference. I'd teach you, but something tells me you don't care, seeing as how you ignore the record heat.

    http://www.weather.com/news/weather-forecast/extreme-heat-southwest-120-degrees-20130626

    My state:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/19/baked-alaska-unusual-hea_n_3463563.html
     
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    Uh, there's tons of evidence. There are thousands and thousands of papers showing the evidence. It's like asking for evidence that fire is hot while you're standing in the middle of one. You don't actually want evidence, because there's tons of it, and you're still pretending there isn't.
     
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    Right here...

    anwpassage.jpg
     
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    There is no absolute proof in science. If you want certainty, go to church. What we do have is a mountain of evidence that cannot be explained in any other way. If you can explain it otherwise, please feel free to do so, as a Nobel Prize certainly awaits.

    So you think deforestation has no effect on climate? Where did you ever get such a bizarre notion? Not from peer-reviewed science, obviously.

    * Atmospheric CO2 has increased more than 40% since the start of the industrial revolution, and this increase is entirely human caused.
    * The increase in CO2 increases the atmospheric greenhouse effect, by (currently) an additional 1.9 W/m².
    * Since energy cannot be created or destroyed, where do you think that additional 1.9 W/m² ends up?
     
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    "Are you still at the elementary level of understanding CLIMATE change? It's not WEATHER change. Learn the difference. I'd teach you, ..."

    Taxcutter says:
    Go teach the Warmers and the MSM.

    After a decade and a half of hearing from leading Warmers and media beauzeaux that every summer daytime high over ninety degrees is evidence of AGW, I am empowered to rebut using every cool day or cold winter.

    Clean your own house up, then we'll talk.
     
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    So, your winter will soon be over. Though sometimes your winter is like Russian summer. :smile:
     
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    Global warming? Sounds like a new global myth.
     
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    Its just a pseudo-scientific riff on an old scam.
     
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    Currently (1 pm CDT, August 4) it's 96 in Phoenix and 94 in Dallas. Please provide a link to a media story claiming these temperatures have anything to do with global warming. Or admit that you're just making stuff up.
     
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    Dont let me stop you providing some then ? This entire panic only exists because of climate modelling and the vested interests of those promoting it. Here is why as a consequence of those shonky models its all just nonsense.

    http://c3headlines.typepad.com/.a/6a010536b58035970c0120a5c9415b970b-pi

    GI = GO. Take away the scary models and this whole 'crisis' disappears
     

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