Where Did Pop Music Go?

Its the Decay ,of culture in General ,the only thing that they can pump out is regurgitation of the Old ,and sexualisation of the Youth,eg, Miley Cyrus!
Music doesn't sell, Miley's ecstasy induced arse rubbing does!
And none of them can actually sing ,Plastic People doing Plastic things ,a culture doesn't make.Its all manufactured crap!

Nothing gets up unless Simon Cowell says and he is a Middle Class Philistine ,Money grubbing (*)(*)(*)(*)!

 

Hey I am 55 and Hip Man ,I really enjoy ,Miley Cyrus ,getting down and dirty ,Oh oh ,OMG ,am I Dirty old man now !

Bugger this is what it feels like ,we all become lecherous old men .
Hey go with the flow I say ,its my time now to be an Old perv ,and hey this generation doesn't like clothing for some grand reason.

LOL!

 

Yeah same here. I'm in my late fifties and I really like seeing only partly clad young ladies gadding about in public. On the other hand I also weep bitter tears over the decaying moral and cultural standards of our nation -- which is a bummer because tear filled eyes makes it difficult to leer.

 

In a word--Royalties. In more than a word, I think I heard that now you have to pay royalties if you have music when putting someone on hold, play a radio in a public business, elevator music, etc. --anything involving a public place and music.

 

Oh indeed ,such are the Trials a tribulations of Middle age ,cheer up 50 is the new 40, hope springs eternal,Nar Who the hell do I think I am Kidding ,we are old codgers, and the Youth know it!

Next generation may just run around Nude ,and my "Artistic Side " has nothing against that,the Supple form of vibrant youth ,unfettered by the Conventions of the Old ,16 and above of course !

Have you noticed the Short Shorts with the cut aways and so far up their arses as to disappear fashion ?

They leave nothing to the imagination ,and that's what I regret for this generation ,no need for Imagination .

Sexy thing imagination.

 

Yep, that's why presents are nice. You enjoy the wrapping and guessing what's lurking beneath it; and a great deal of the fun is in peeling it away and finding out if you were right or not.

 

I keep expecting someone to come up with the idea that the Charleston and Lindy Hop were the apex of REAL music. I guess there aren't that many 100 year olds on this board after all.

Uh huh, sure...such things were absolutely unknown in the 60's

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIfjozLGueU

The form has changed, not the substance

I will agree as to the last para tho. It used to be that if you wanted to publish music you needed 6 musicians, about 10 grand worth of instruments, a garage, very cooperative parents, some 10 years of playing for thrown pennies and you'd still end up with nothing but a guitar in the closet if you couldn't convince your pretty gf to sleep with the man from Decca. Now you need a Smartphone.

 

Andy Warhol said something about 15 minutes of fame ,now more like 15 nano- seconds.

And as Miley Cyrus shows ,musical talent is secondary to your arse gyrations hey ,I see Brittany Spears ,is doing Lesbian whippings in her great new contribution to Music's prostitution.

http://www.yourtv.com.au/Blog.aspx?blogentryid=1154116&showcomments=true

 

All good to me. The more people who get to make music the more and better music we'll eventually see. It's not like there's terribly limited bandwidth on YouTube. Cream will rise to the top.

Britney's a good example of the fact that all the promotion in the world won't make up for a lack of talent over time. In the meanwhile I don't blame Miley at all for twerking it while we're still looking. She may even learn to sing someday, though I doubt anyone will notice.

 

that's because there was nothing else, the music industry is far bigger today...and music today is much more diverse then it was back imo, not that I like all of it but there are many more genre's to choose from...

and sinatra bored me, that was a generation before me(old peoples music)

 

stage presence always has been part of performing to stay relevant/popular performers need to constantly find new ways to entertain or they risk becoming irrelevant and forgotten...

 

Stage Presence is not whose (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) is twerted the best!

The decay of Pop culture ,is debauched with basically Soft porn presented to 12 year olds as "Artistic Expression " ,get real ,Old school everything is cool,the manufactured crap called Pop music ,is a corruption for the sensationalised Buck .

Miley can not sing ,have you noticed totally without vocal talent ,so she has to get her best asset ,her fanny out there.

in front of Children and pre adolescent girls particularly ,no wonder kids today looking at Role models like the Bieber and Miley are so Confused!

Pop music is soft core Porn!

I agree , the whole genre ,is Forgotten and Irrelevant load of crap really ,quick bucks ,and brain Pollution.

 

Totally different substance ,Political protest ,Melding of forms ,folk ,Blues ,Rock and Soul.

memorable and ground breaking in form ,the Music had a soul of the Times imprinted and will be Remembered .

Whereas the Production line ,Simon Cowley soft porn prostitution of music dies unremembered ,as soon as released ,its not this generations fault ,I blame the general decay of culture under Capitalism.

Miley Cyrus please ,cute arse about it .

Brittany Spears ,ain't no Janis Joplin or Stevie Nicks ,for that matter.

Cultural Fluff with sex sells as its Motto.

Oh lets not forget queen of the Plastic people Niki Mirage

 

People give rap a lot of unjustified hate, in my view.

Listen to good rap/hip-hop. MF DOOM, A Tribe Called Quest, Public Enemy, etc.

Additionally, there is a rising genre of rap-style music that you might like - it's clearly not poetry with drums. Check out Flying Lotus, Samiyam, etc.

 

Rap is not music.

 

Alright, you're entitled to that opinion.

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As am I to mine.

 

Then neither is Plainsong (that's medieval cathedral chants, like they play on tv every Christmas morning, musically, they're the EXACT same thing, only the beat is different)

 

Mebbe, I dunno, sounds an awful lot how my father felt about what I liked anyway.

"Time will tell, just who has fell. And who's been left behind..."

 

Are these your favourites....Christ...the last one put me to sleep...I thought I was at a funeral...
The other two...the less said...the better...that is not music...anyone who speaks a sentence
where the last word rhymes with the last word of the previous sentence is reciting poetry....it is NOT
music...there are musical instruments being played...but what is the artist..a baratone...a tenor...a bass...
...a sophrano...answer...none...equals poetry with drums.....

 

Some would say all music is a form of Poetry.
Whether spoken or Sung ,rhythm is Rhythm ,Whereas Miley and the Pop crowd ,is soft porn ,to lipsync.

 

Rap crap is recited...no highs or lows....mainly lows....music is sung...Miley wouldn't be a star if she had no booty to pop...

 

I recall these same thoughts were expressed about elvis 50+ years ago when he gyrated on stage, so provocative cameras only showed him from the waist up...and who was he performing for, young girls....morality changes with each generation, the newest always going a step further than the parents and shocking their grandparents with their lewd public behaviour...in twenty years miley will forgotten and old and there will be someone else pushing the boundaries...

well I've never listened to her so I went to youtube...

you may not like her performances or her genre but yes she can sing and very well...
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now I have to go back to youtube and find out what twerking is...

 

I hear it all the time. Some of it's rap, some dance music (i.e. Katy Perry, Lady Gaga), some country.

Music is more private and diverse now. Also, to some degree the number of oldies stations is stunting new music as well.

 

So you are in your 50s or 60s......

I've found that the older I get, the less flexible I am musically. Personally (and I know it's based on my age/tastes rather than anything objective), I find 80s music(New Wave and the pop deriviatives of it) to still be the freshest, most exciting music around.

That said, there is some really good music being made now. I like the Lumineers, Mumford and Sons, Jack Johnson, etc. The thing is, look at the Top 40 weekly charts from the 1970s. You'll find a lot of crap that you forgot existed. Part of why oldies are good is that only the best of the oldies are still heard. the mediocre stuff has been long forgotten.

 

"Part of why oldies are good is that only the best of the oldies are still heard. the mediocre stuff has been long forgotten." That's true of all music, and of all the arts. The music, books, paintings, etc. from 200 years ago that we still enjoy are the best. Most art is mediocre or less and soon forgotten. That makes a good case for ignoring most contemporary art. Old art has passed history's test and is worth your time. Only luck or rare discernment will lead you to new art of enduring quality. That's why I've always preferred "classical" music and older books and paintings.

Of course, pop culture celebrates the new. That's partly for commerce - art is a business and needs revenue now - and partly to flatter the young, who lack context for anything more than a couple years old. That's why Miley Cyrus "twerking" is cutting edge but the Stones are for grandpa. Miley Cyrus's pelvis makes more money, and eighteen year olds feel the 1960s are so long ago they're irrelevant. But making money from teenagers is not about art.

I always have been open to music and art of all sorts. I enjoy work of most times and places. If anything, my tastes are broader now than when I was young because I've found more things I like over time.

It's probably true that most people stick with what they knew when they were young. That's true of much more than the arts. As I age (I'm 63), I'm sad to notice that most of my contemporaries repeat the ideas and attitudes of their youth, and never seem to learn or change. They're immune to experience. I understand why this happens, but it's especially damaging in politics. The country is run by people 50 or older, and most of them insist on the language and conflicts of their youth. That keeps the leadership decades behind the public.