I gave you the answer to the honest question, and the follow-up stem-cell aspect. References to questionable religious practices are totally irrelevant to how hospitals deal with biological waste and the issue of waste blood is most certainly not related specifically to abortion (which generally won't involve anything like as much blood as many other medical procedures). Now I've already reached conclusions on your ulterior motives in making this thread (and I'm sure I'm not alone in that) but I gave you the benefit of the doubt as gave the straight, honest answers. It's up to you whether you prove me wrong by addressing those answers directly or continue to compound those conclusions by making further silly comments.
And how do you know YOUR conclusions are the ultimate conclusions of where they are go and how they are disposed of? are you a Doctor? Sounds to me like you're just making silly assumptions to look intelligent while tyring to belittle a valid topic. you lose. If I speculate, it's better than you judging my speculation rather than exploring the possiblities. For all the good abortion Doctors claim they do for women's right to choose, I can still question what they do with the remains. and In my opinion I don't think they are dumping the the dead remains in Hazmat bags like hazardous waste. Didn't you just see the link in this very thread where a doctor is feeding them to the dogs??!! Don't walk blindly through life ok? it's not healthy
No, but I work at a large teaching hospital, including working with the teams dealing with medical waste. I'm confident that anything I've stated as fact and anything I'm not entirely sure of I've said as such. For example, I started out pointing out that all my information is based on the UK and it could well be different in the USA. I'm applying a mixture of first hand knowledge and common sense. You may well be able to prove me wrong on any aspect of what I've said but you've not yet even tried to. Why not? You started out with an open question, which I provided answers to and you've not actually provided any serious alternative possibilities. There are probably better ways to get the basic information about what does (and legally should) happen to aborted remains that asking questions here, where you're obviously more likely to get opinion than fact. I thought it was disgusting and rightfully illegal where it happened and I'm sure in the UK and USA too. It was apparently an element of a wider crime though and despite the extreme nature of this aspect, the wider issue is more significant. I don't think it's relevant to the rules, laws and practices of abortion providers in the US.
It's to my understanding that the fetus and contents of pregnancy are sent to a pathology lab to be examined and the contents confirmed. Then unless expressed otherwise, the are sent to the hospital/clinic incinerator or medical waste company for proper disposal. The embryo or fetus is treated like biological waste according to the law, unless the patient wants it to bury it.
Do you have peer review link for this claim? or this just your opinion? I found that organ harvesting is big business in the land called Israel today. Even the labs are chopping them up and being sold on the black market, courtesy of Barack Obama. read here. http://endoftheamericandream.com/ar...the-full-approval-of-the-obama-administration
You're guessing. that's all you're doing. You're not thinking outside the box. You are comfortable with your own answers and opinions about it. Anything rocking that boat is not possible in your set opinionated world. You mean to tell me Organ Harvesting is not a big enough issue to be concerned about? It could very well be the catalyst behind the promotion of abortion. get a clue. to answers your comment, The solution is to stop females from having them unless a dire situation arises. not just for convenience.
Organ harvesting from abortions????? This is a 12 week abortion, where are the organs for harvesting? You must stop believing all the wild horror stories made up by the RTL wingers. Oh, and BTW, there is no "promotion of abortion." BTW, where did you ever get the idea that anyone can "stop females from having them"? Females have been having them for centuries, and no amount of law-making has ever stopped them.
I'm not guessing, I'm providing information I know is accurate based on first hand experience. You asked a question and I provided an answer - the fact it's not the answer you wanted doesn't impact it's accuracy. Now, I've absolutely no doubt the good practice I describe doesn't necessarily happen everywhere, especially outside the western world. You've provided zero evidence of it not happening for the reasons you appear to imagine (stem cell extraction, blood for the Occult (still, really?) and now organ harvesting(!)) but it wouldn't rock any boats for me if such evidence were provided (though I'd be more than a little surprised if you were the one providing it). Organ harvesting is a major issue (though not an especially large scale one). Common sense should tell you that it has absolutely nothing to do with abortion though. I agree, I think abortion is used far too much and far too easily. That doesn't mean I think any of your "arguments" against it have any kind of rational validity though. "Pro-life" is as much of the problem as "pro-choice".
Deluding yourself into believing an untruth that the unborn child is nothing but a clump of cells is indicitive that you are delusional on other topics as well. Such delusion leads to a life that is difficult to maintain happiness, proof is in the pudding, for years now, a very well respected agency has studies that show conservatives are generally happier than libs, these studies are not even refuted by many leading dems, libs. . Proof is not available, nor cannot be provided to one who is delusional about a topic, hence why certain questions posed by pro lifers to pro abortionists always remain unanswered. . . providing some similarities between two entities does not prove they are the same, a certain minimum threshold is required to make an accurate claim that both of them are in the same category regarding their basic essence of what they are. . so sorry to pop your bubble or ruin your day.
Yeah to very specific cases. Are you against abortions in any of those listed cases such as rape, incest, and life endangerment? Or do you think women should be forced to go through their pregnancy and carry to term regardless of those reasons?
Being a pro lifer, I'm immediately profiled by the group that claims to disdain profiling ! What proves many are closed minded, as I'm sure many pro lifers are also, they refuse to believe, or at least they carry on the "debate" as though my claims of compassion for both lives, is BS. . . But I do, I have a tremendous amount of compassion and empathy for both the woman and her child. There is, and never will be a solution. I do believe better laws and policies are out there. But it would take more than just making abortion illegal. To me, it would also require getting women exposed to more information about what is going on with their body and the baby, to become better informed of options, for society at large to change its basic attitudes towards abortion, single parenting, divorce, adoption, and a general overall pervaisive "me, me, me" attitude. This would make it easier for women to take their baby to term, without being forced into it, but desiring to do so. . I know the fetus is a human being, others would disagree, but I believe science, religion prove it. In that case, rape and incest would not be brounds for abortion, but if the mothers life is threatened, then an abortion would be an option. . . Lax abortion laws are simply a symtom of an overall societal view of self centerdness. While we claim to put our children first, our actions belie, bely? that claim. We now put material goods and \"having fun" or a career ahead of having kids, aka a family. . To simply make abortion illegal is not a solution, and by itself, not even necessarily a step in the right direction, and this comes from a pro lifer. ...... . but also, this pro lifer believes drugs should be legalized, george zimmerman should be in prison for the rest of his life, and OJ didnt kill his ex wife. ..... . Having an honest, almost non emotional discussion, debate, is almost impossible. I do talk with people individually, sometimes over a period of time, and get them to see things from another point of view previously unavailable to them, giving them more choices. ... ..I dont refer to the "pro choice" crowd as such, pro abortion is the actions they exhibit. Giving the woman more information and hence choices, or at least availibility of being able to make a more informed decision, is opposed by the pro abortion group if it is information that might lead the woman to decide its wrong to have an abortion.
It is? I guess no one would know better than you...... . . I find that as individuals become more informed on issues, they often become more conservative, and I have converted many a liberal, not to mention sometimes people who think they are libs, really arent, and they become aware of that and start voting republican/libertarian. . . As for ignorance, I'd be more than willing to take you on in a game of Jeopardy, trivial pursuit or scrabble anytime.
Abortions aside I will address where aborted fetuses go. We don't know. Any thing after this is speculation. Let me speculate now. Since I believe in God, I'm sure it will be just whatever happens. Not sure about the traditional concept of heaven and I do not dismiss it absolutely. But I do question how a undeveloped person (fetus) can go to heaven or the next life whatever that is. Perhaps it is recycled and develops in another womb? That sounds equally far fetched. I honestly do not know. So I have to go back to what ever happens, I'm sure it will be just and right.
Are you opposed to funding medicaid abortions for those women who qualify for those abortions saving their lives, or in cases of rape or incest?
