Where Does Morality Come From?

Philosophy IS mental exercise into the Human experience and morality is a result of the results placed into play.

 

Ok now I agree with you @tecoyah .

Nice revision.

 

It’s simple two or more people come to an agreement, there is the morals that are relative to them, in the case of the Creator and Judge’s, agreement with Adam was His commandment which is a covenant which is an agreement, relative to them.
The particulars in the agreement are the set of morals to brake them deliberately is immoral, and to come into agreement with the intention of braking it is unethical, and to keep the agreement when no one is aware, and when the other party brakes it, is integrity.
Hence if you notice God is always wise to keep the consequence in the agreement so the people He comes into agreement with is aware.
Why are morals relative, simple, if you are a citizen of the US then you are not bound to the societies morals in Russia or China or a Muslim nation. Some would try to convince others that morals are universal, that’s nothing but horse dump from those who want the rest of the world to be in their image of it. You know, everyone wants to rule the world. Like American women’s organizations for instance, trying to impose their ideas on middle east societies, like they have the moral right. Those people agree to the societies rules they live by, they are not bound to American shrews think of it. And to be honest no one is keeping those who disagree with Islam from leaving middle east. I personally don’t agree with Islam concepts but I don’t live in the middle east ether, nor am I bound to their ways or thinking.

It goes on and on, hence we have lawyers, but it starts with the agreement.

 

I would like to see an experiment done on this topic. My morality is guided by how my actions feel. There are things I have done that didn't make me feel good. But is that feeling a result of learnt behavior by the society i'm part of or is it a natural human feeling to, for example; Steal something from someone? I honestly don't know.

 

Nothing is wrong with semantics if the conversation proceeds in a rational and adult manner. On the other hand, without prior consensus of how words are defined or an understanding of differences in how words are defined, the conversation can easily go off track and become quite silly.

 

what you feel is the result of, but feelings are not reality, its only what you feel.

in a dangerous situation some panic and are over come with fear, and some do not. nether feeling is the reality of the situation only how one feels about it. could be as simple as one panics because they don't know what to do and the other doesn't because he knows what to do.

but morals have nothing to do with it unless doing well in a agreement makes you feel bad, then you've probably got some issues to iron out. but all seek fulfillment of what is in their hearts no matter what agreements they maybe bound to. the only hope is that what is in one's heart and what they are bound to by agreements are the same.

 

I'm referring specifically to feeling bad as soon as I do something bad.

 

100,000 years of humans walking the earth.

 

Some people think it is alright to have sex with children, so no.

 

Yah, the ancient Greeks and Romans were into pedophilia big time. Just read Marcus Aurelius' "Meditations".

 

There is no real evidence that there is objective morality. What does make sense is doing things that make yourself feel good emotionally and physically and sometimes it makes you feel good when you are helping others, when other return the favor, or you have loved ones because of your actions, or agreeing to not do certain things so everyone is safe. But harming others can sometimes benefit you too. Morality isn't about a list of rules written down on a stone by a desert God. Its whatever makes your life better, happier, and more meaningful.

 

Assuming you have a conscience, it is not real to you?

 

Its either real or not. The simple belief that it is real without any connection to reality doesn't make it real.

 

From God himself

Spoiler

 

If your conscience isn't real to you, to say you have a problem is far too charitable, because the fact of the matter is that you are a problem.

 

I have a conscience. I never said I didn't. But again, either something is real or it isn't. It doesn't really matter what your subjective desire for what is real to be, it doesn't make it any more likely in reality.

 

Your parents taught you not to steal, at least in some situations. For example, they could have taught you how to be a pickpocket and a shoplifter. And when you do those things they would approve of it and tell you what a good job you did. But if you stole from them they would probably beat the crap out of you. So the moral lesson would be that it's OK for you to steal from other people but to never steal from your parents.

 

Since you evidently think tautologies are meaningful, I guess I should not marvel that you think the repetition thereof is even more so.

Which of course doesn't have a damn thing to do with anything I said, but presumably the diversionary value of such mindless prattle to the committed atheist can hardly be underestimated.

 

You referred to "objective" morality. Where does your objective morality come from? The God who killed (almost) all of his Creation? The God who told His subjects that it was permissible to kill the young male offspring of defeated soldiers? That God?

 

I didn't use a tautalogy. I just pointed out that either something is true or it isn't. This is because something can't be true and not true in the same time in the same way that in the real world 1 can't be equal to 1 and 2 at the same time.

Since you are the one who believes morality exists, what reasoning convinces you that morality true in the real world?

 

Of course you did.

No doubt your tripling down on the stupid is appreciated by many.

I think you should write a treatise about it.

If you don't, then neither do you believe in conscience. Enjoy.

 

You didn't explain why it is a tautology. I backed it up the claim that something is either true or it isn't by arguing that something can't be both true and not true at the same time because that is a logical contradiction. You didn't even respond to it, removed it from your quote, and mocked me for saying it.

A conscience is our feelings of empathy and guilt. One can feel these emotions without objective morality being true.

 

Sue me.

Happily, I'm not retarded enough to give a damn.

No, those are possible byproducts.

 

Morality was born the first time Og decided that it was more beneficial to his survival to work with Moog rather than bash his head in. Morality has often been about the benefits to survival as a cooperative.

 

Debating with you is like trying to play chess with a chimpanzee. You are at the stage where you are hopping on the chess board and sh***ing all over it after being checkmated. How old are you by the way? There should be a minimum age on these forums.

That is our experience of conscience. If you believe there is more to it then show me why it is true.