Which Christian denominations have we got here?

I did not attribute a sinful nature to God .. What I said was "God made them that way" - or did you think it was Satan who created humans.

 

Surprise!

Now I see two votes for the "Catholic" option.

 

There are situations where people who have been ostracized in society because of drugs, etc., do need that personal touch and love from others, and that's what the Evangelicals try to give them. Their compassion and prayers can be truly heartfelt.

 

Last I checked, most biblical scholars hold that the Revelation author John, was not the Disciple John. Also as I recall, most of the disciples did not stand by for the crucifixion, and the one that did denied he was a disciple.

 

When Christians don't flaunt their practices and try to influence our children, we'll be more than happy to reciprocate. We are just following the Golden Rule and treating you as you have treated us, since must be how you want to be treated.

 

We?
Who is "we"?

 

"God" is a word that is subject to a wide range of definitions.....
a lot of Atheists and Agnostics would NOT be entirely offended by the idea of
Intelligence beginning in Energy from Quantum Vacuum, (or Fundamental Energy as implied by String Theory)....
and that Intelligence could learn and evolve over infinite time in the past and perhaps even design
and engineer an infinite number of Big Bang type Events which would fit with The Cyclic Model of the Universe / Multiverse.



https://near-death.com/mellen-thomas-benedict/

In my opinion any so called Atheist who is offended by this idea probably has a much lower IQ than somebody who terms themselves an Agnostic.

Any Atheist who is terribly offended by this idea of God evolving and Adam and Eve being perhaps Created.... is taking Atheism an turning it into a religion.... much as was done by Karl Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot and to a degree Richard Dawkins...... but Dawkins has made a couple of intellectual steps in the general direction of The Light.





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My strong suspicion is that the most Ancient Intelligence has gotten into the production of Reality Films that are seen during the Life Review of near death experiences.

 

Of course gay marriage is frowned upon because it's not a marriage. It's two people having illicit sex and who are trying to impose its acceptability on the rest of the world.

Look, everyone's free to do whatever they want, but when it's imposed on people who find it offensive, then wouldn't it be taking away their rights? Let's say for instance that some nudists had suddenly decided that they have a right to run around naked in the streets, and it didn't matter if it offends others? Does this mean that they should make it a law and impose it on the majority of the population?

As for Christianity, it is a spiritual faith and the reason for Christ's advent and His physical suffering was so we could unite with our Creator. To do so though, we too must become like God. In other words Christians are supposed to focus on their spiritual nature and not on their physical nature. If it wasn't so, we wouldn't have monasteries.

 

God created humans, Satan does his best to influence their behavior. You try and excuse sinful behavior.

 

You better check your "recalling". Peter was not at the cross, he was outside of the hearing. That is where he denied Jesus and the **** crowed. John was the only disciple at the cross because the rest were in hiding. It was John to whom Jesus referred when he said "Mother behold your son". There are many so called "biblical scholars" that say all kinds of things to discount scripture. The same John that wrote Revelation, wrote John's Epistles as well as the Gospel of John. He stood at the foot of the cross.

 

So "us" being the "homosexual community". You don't even understand what you call the "Golden Rule". Perhaps you've been taking too many 'golden showers". Scripture does not say Do unto others as they do unto you.

 

And here I thought that Our Founding Fathers were devout Christians, I didn't realize they were gays. I'm sorry but to me you're nothing but a bunch of infantiles wrapped around yourselves, and nothing else.


Take that you fools of misery.
For we as gods of lofty see,
who practice ancient pagan rites
to fuel our base and flagrant life.

Are unlike you - such lowly fools
who follow banal moral rules.
We have our own within our stead
of hubris and of bloated head.

- Jeannette


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Are there really no Calvinists here?

 

I have excused nothing of the sort.. not given any personal opinion on the issue of pedophilia .. Nice backhanded attempt at calling the messenger a supporter of pedophilia . - can your brain can't handle the message mate ? ... left you stammering and foaming at the mouth

Is "Your all supporters of Pedophiles" the only thing you can manage ? Is lashing out at the messenger because you can't handle what follows from your claim that .. "God Created Humans" .. as if this is the case .. then GOD created humans in such a way that there would be a probability that some would be pedophiles.

This is just basic math .. logic .. has nothing to do with my opinion on pedophiles .. but if you would like to hear it .. do feel free to ask ..

 

Maquiscat - Now I'm not saying this to be cruel, or that I would wish it on anyone. Heaven forbid, after all I'm a Christian, so it's not part of my nature. But I think you're being highly deceived by the adversary. If I recall correctly, the last time there was such a flagrant flaunting of immorality, it ended up in the 'Night of the Long Knives'.

 

I appreciate you confirming what I said.
No one can impose a marriage on you, but you.

 

so do you know what no laws broken means when it's said by me or someone else's

 

Was thinking about the trap you find yourself in --which is what happens when you make claims for God .."God is this -- God is that" put God in a Box is how I term it..

You want to frame God as "All Good" "All the time" .. and so of course God is against pedophelia ... but ..then why on earth would God create beings where -due to probability - it would be a certainty that at least some .. and in the case of our species .. a whole lot more .. would deviate into such ghoulish behavoir.

How to answer this question .. and keep the pretty box at the same time . ? There are many answers - some of them are good .. but none of the good ones allow keeping the box "Fully" intact ... But .. hey .. your structure is strong .. foundation is solid .. a little chip matters not .. or does it .. as if the answer to that question is yes ... we have a different conversation.

The way I have my God Framed .. a Good God .. one with intellect .. intelligence .. and a trillion years of experience ... a wise old hag on steroids in that department ...

Now .. 2 things .. 1) either we create automatons .. doing only all good .. all of the time .. doing nothing but prasing Jesus day in day out 24/7 - or .. we don't .. so how about .. we create them "Like US" .. in "OUR" image ..

In my version of the story .. call the may "HeyZeus" .. latinized Jesus .. combined with an epiphet for the Most High .. top dog in the sky. .. I could use the term "EL" which I prefer .. but that would resulte in "Hey -El" which sounds a lot like ..

but in my version .. El Got tired .. YHWH if you prefer .. or EL-YHWH which would be more precise -- of the 24/7 all day and night long for trillions of years .. perhaps wanted some company from time to time .. and when humans were created .. "Like US" they are given the ability to do what they like .... the rules of the universe are what they are .. Lets see what happens

but that's just my story .. others have different .. you don't yet have one .. and you should

2) So once we set these humans we created go off on their own - do we

A) intervene from time to time .. via El -YHWH directly and/or various emmissaries. emanations from the Godhead if you want to get funky and gnostic .. slightly trinitarian as well ...

or do we B) let the experiment run its course ?

So you see .. in my story . God is not a bad fellow -- God realizes it is a choice between something - or nothing .. as if you want any entertainment in your life at all.. you can't control it.

 

Those of us that such Christians are flaunting their practices to and trying to influence our children.

 

That is not agreed upon by even just the Christian biblical scholars yet alone the non-Christian ones. You may believe it, but that is not proof.

 

I am not LBGT, so no I am not limiting it to the LBGT. Nice try though.

I have many kinks. Watersports is not one of them. But sure, keep trying the ad homs when you have nothing else.

Indeed, it is "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you". Therefore, if a Christian is going to treat another person with hate and bigotry, then that must be how they want to be treated. I'm happy to oblige them. Until they treat me that way and show me how they want to be treated, I will treat them with the respect and tolerance I would want.

 

Never said they were. Got any other strawman arguments?

 

And I could claim the same thing about you. In fact that is pretty much the most common claim there is when some Christians tell other Christians why they are not Christians. And then they pull out this that or the other to show why they are the "True Christianstm" and all the others are not. You've done it yourself.

 

You are on a roll!! Perhaps you should be left to your deflection!

 

I do not know any of those.
I suppose you are speaking of evangelical fundamentalists in the US.
I do not like those fanatics either.