Which is the greater threat to the country

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  1. Daniel Light

    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    After reading your ignorant post, I would say that paranoia and regurgitation of pathetic nonsense is a far great threat to America than foreign influence.
     
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    in most states, you can use a homeless shelter as your home address for voting purposes. and in ca, they will assign a “voter id#” if you don’t have a social security card. you just have to sign a form stating you are a us citizen and eligible to vote.
     
  3. Sirius Black

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    One only does this the first time one registers. If you move or go to a different state your voting information goes with you. When I moved to a different state the state I moved to requested my voter information. The state I left informed me that they had sent it and that if this was in error I needed to contact them because my name was being taken off the voter rolls.
     
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    Yes, but that's because the aging radicals of thirty years ago not only finally finally became the Dem Party's modern leadership but earmarked future positions of power and influence for up and coming leftists even more radical in nature than they were, people whom -- say -- over the hill domestic terrorist turned college professor and Barack Obama's ghost writer of memoirs would tend to say in regards to "Whoa! Now that's going too far!"
     
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  5. Sirius Black

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    I disagree I think the greatest danger to this country is the division between its citizens and the false information that is spread to widen this division. For instance if it could be shown that there was a wide spread voter fraud I think most patriotic Americans of both parties would take steps to correct it. By the way if this problem does exist why aren't those in Congress or those in the administration or those in the judicial system trying to do something about it? Is our government that disfunctional?
     
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    The DMV in California put 23,000 illegal aliens on the voter roles .
     
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  7. Lee Atwater

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    Bingo. It's the people who have empowered a lying, ignorant, demagogue who continue to support him even after his efforts to subvert democratic principles that pose the unique threat we face. Never has such a large part of the population been manipulated by a transparent con man and his media cohorts before.
     
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    You've got a point there. It's easy to forget that a lying fraud like Don could never have been elected if not for the ground being made fertile by the likes of Faux and Limbaugh.
     
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    Not True:
    "Tens of thousands of Californians have been registered to vote incorrectly by the state Department of Motor Vehicles, including some who were assigned the wrong political party preference, officials said Wednesday.

    The errors, which were discovered more than a month ago, happened when DMV employees did not clear their computer screens between customer appointments. That caused some voter information from the previous appointment, such as language preference or a request to vote by mail, to be “inadvertently merged” into the file of the next customer.

    State officials said no people in the country illegally — who are eligible to get a special driver’s license in California — were mistakenly registered to vote."

    http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-dmv-voter-registration-error-20180905-story.
     
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    I agree.

    The very dangerous rise of Progressivism has resulted in it taking control of the Democratic Party, which has now created the New Democratic Party. It's apparent the NDP rejects the Constitution, and seeks to control the population through agency and courts, rather than allow citizens to create and maintain the government as our Founding Fathers defined.
     
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    What dressing do you use on that duplicitous word salad?
     
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    That's quite a claim by the Progressives and their mouthpiece, the LA Times.

    What people may not be aware of is a provision in the law that established California's Motor Voter law, in concert with issuing Drivers Licenses to illegal aliens.

    As a note to the history, Progressives first passed AB60, on 10/3/13, which gave illegals California Drivers Licenses. Two years later the Progressives passed AB1461 - the Motor Voter law that made the DMV a place to register to vote.

    In AB1461, the Progressives made sure to include the following:

    https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=201520160AB1461

    Except - Emphasis added for clarity​


    Existing law makes it a crime for a person to willfully cause, procure, or allow himself or herself or any other person to be registered as a voter, knowing that he or she or that other person is not entitled to registration. Existing law also makes it a crime to fraudulently vote or attempt to vote.

    This bill would provide that if a person who is ineligible to vote becomes registered to vote by operation of the California New Motor Voter Program in the absence of a violation by that person of the crime described above, that person’s registration shall be presumed to have been effected with official authorization and not the fault of that person. The bill would also provide that if a person who is ineligible to vote becomes registered to vote by operation of this program, and that person votes or attempts to vote in an election held after the effective date of the person’s registration, that person shall be presumed to have acted with official authorization and is not guilty of fraudulently voting or attempting to vote, unless that person willfully votes or attempts to vote knowing that he or she is not entitled to vote.
    So let's get real. Progressives have laid the groundwork for illegals to vote, and provided a legal out if they get caught.

    That is an undeniable fact, as carved in stone, in the law Progressives passed above.
     
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    I don't know which "news" you are watching...but they're lying to you

    Illegal aliens can't vote and don't vote.

    It's a fantasy
     
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    I agree. The misinformation coming out of right-wing rhetoric is perhaps the greatest threat to our country, and to our society.
     
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    It found nothing.

    There was no reason to continue
     
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    The Russian interference is an assault on our democracy...and people like logical1 are abetting that assault
     
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    Do you have something rational to say about it, or as usual, are you just trolling?
     
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    Do you live in Russia?
     
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    Funny that you should say that.
     
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    It found nothing for the reasons given. You offered nothing.
     
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    Sort of. I live in California.
     
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    Troll if you must. Your waste of time, not mine.
     
  23. Sirius Black

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    The head of the commission was the Secretary of State in Kansas. He couldn't find any evidence in his own state.
     
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    Here in Oregon, all voting is done by mail. Without a valid address, one doesn't get to vote. Besides, without an address, how does one decide which district they are in?

    In Oregon, the homeless give two addresses. The first, the closest intersection, that represents the part of town they normally stay, and the second, a valid mailing address, usually of a church or homeless service organization.
     
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    https://www.meritalk.com/articles/states-refuse-to-turn-over-voter-data-to-white-house-commission/

    At least eight largely Democratic states said they would not comply at all and at least 16 other states have informed the commission that they would not provide any sensitive data. Nine of those states have Republican officials handling voter registration.

    Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach, a Republican who helped draft the letters to every state that requested the voter data, told the Kansas City Star that he won’t be turning over Social Security data to the White House.​
     
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