Which of the following cases should be granted an abortion

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Which of the following cases should be granted an abortion

  1. 26 year old 17 weeks pregnant with a partial miscarriage - foetus retained has heartbea

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  2. 11 year year old pregnant by grandmothers boyfriend 20 weeks pregnant

    16 vote(s)
    94.1%
  3. Mother of four 2 disabled children husband lost his job 8 weeks pregnant

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  4. 17 year old homeless girl 10 weeks pregnant

    16 vote(s)
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  5. A 36 year old woman 28 weeks pregnant foetus diagnosed with anencephaly

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  1. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    FoxHastings said:
    OH what a lovely, fairy tale "should"......


    BUT are they??

    How do they know they will receive all this help ?

    "Financial support"? Really....and when will the Republican quit trying to cut funds for entities that aid CHILDREN (Welfare, SNAP, WIC).

    Please don't deny you have heard how righties talk about women on Welfare....NONE are offering moral support or educational support or a home

    Oh , please just stop with the obligatory CRAP about ""Welfare fraud"""!!

    The abuse of the Welfare system (alone only a tiny tiny part of of the US budget ) PALES in comparison to what other entities , like the military, rip off taxpayers...


    If they use that as their phony EXCUSE for not taking care of those "precious lives" CHILDREN then nothing will convince them.

    And that didn't answer the question:
    when will the Republican quit trying to cut funds for entities that aid CHILDREN (Welfare, SNAP, WIC). ???
     
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    Why is a disease a "flimsy excuse" ????
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Another example of pro-choicers trying to conflate solid medical issues with "mental health" reasons.

    Sorry, not every woman should be allowed to get a late term abortion just because a few of them claim they will kill themselves.
     
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    You want to spay and neuter all teenagers?
     
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    So no to subsidized contraception, no to abortion, no to social programs for single moms. At least they really want to find a solution!
     
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  7. FoxHastings

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    What a quaint 19th century view of mental diseases....did you know this is the 21st century and science has advanced?

    It now rcognizes mental diseases as diseases because that's what they are....but I'm sure YOU will never agree with science...
     
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    Why?
     
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    So - expanding on your thought (bolded), who would make those decisions about whether or not they are actually mentally ill or faking it so they can have an abortion?
     
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    "Mental illness" should not be a valid reason for abortions (especially later-stage ones).
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Should we give in to the demands of protesters because they say they are going to kill themselves if they don't get what they want?
     
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    Temporary emotional desperation and mental distress is not a "disease".

    I suppose you think we have to "cure" women of their emotional distress, by giving them an abortion.
     
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    You said: Sorry, not every woman should be allowed to get a late term abortion just because a few of them claim they will kill themselves.

    Based upon that, it could be assumed that you feel some women should be allowed - otherwise you would have written 'no woman'.
     
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    Okay, a fair point.
    My argument there was that it shouldn't automatically be legal for every woman, not necessarily that I approve of it in certain types of these cases.


    They have put pregnant women who were threatening suicide into special facilities before, to make sure they do not kill themselves before the baby comes out.
    That's actually not that uncommon.
     
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    Who said that was happening? “Termination of pregnancy” may mean early induction and live birth:roll:
     
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    A woman should not have to use threats of suicide to get an abortion to begin with.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    It now rcognizes mental diseases as diseases because that's what they are....but I'm sure YOU will never agree with science...
    What a quaint 19th century view of mental diseases....did you know this is the 21st century and science has advanced?"""

    It now rcognizes mental diseases as diseases because that's what they are....but I'm sure YOU will never agree with science...

    ".


    Mental illness is a disease....now please DO show me your credentials for backing up your statement...




    If it helps them YES!

    I suppose YOU want them to suffer even further ( do you delight in that?)


    BTW, as usual I had to include the UNCHERRY PICKED post of mine you quoted ;)
     
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    You agree that this in particular is not a very good reason?
     
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    Dr. FoxHastings is going to write women a prescription for abortion because they have severe emotional issues.

    More and more those allowable exceptions for getting an abortion are not looking like a good thing.
     
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    It's an excellent reason but remember, :) :) women need no reason at all :) :) except they want an abortion :)
     
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    Of course it should. If you are not mentally fit to be a parent it is a very bad idea to become a parent.

    If a woman is mentally fit enough to realise that her mental illness would make motherhood difficult and tnerefore chooses abortion, she is doing the right thing.
     
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    And you wonder why there are so many women with post-abortion regrets...
     
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    So - lock women up?

    Gee what does that remind me of? Oh! How about the Irish case where a young teen who was raped and wanted to go to England for an abortion was locked up and sedated?
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/17/ireland-woman-forced-birth-denied-abortion
     
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    Giving birth is not automatically equivalent to being a parent.

    How about if a woman wants to get an abortion for this reason, she should have to have her tubes tied.
     
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    Forcing unwillingly pregnant women to go through the burden of 9 months pregnancy and all the physical and emotional stress that it entails just to give it up for adoption is truly monstrous.
     
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