Which part of the US will succumb, to SEA LEVEL RISE, first?

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  1. Jack Hays

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    They have three sinking island chains, the marshalls, the solomons, and another by New Guinea.

    All three are right near the Pacific Ring of Fire on the plate going under....

    Search for

    CNN you are making island disappear


    They claim "rising seas" are behind it, never mind they are sinking and nothing else is....

    In 3 million years, the Marshall Islands will be under the Earth's crust....
     
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    Some of those sinking islands are growing. :icon_jawdrop:
     
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    Volcanic islands sometimes do that...

    The plate they are attached to is going down.
     
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    Higher then. Lower now.
    New Data Suggest Greenland’s Relative Sea Levels Were 6 Meters Higher 1,500-2,000 Years Ago
    By Kenneth Richard on 28. October 2021

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    The discovery of whale bones and marine shells at ancient beach sites 32 to 36 meters above today’s shorelines have been dated to the Early to Middle Holocene. Beach ridges were still several meters higher than today during Roman and Medieval times.
    The relative sea levels of the ancient past can be discerned by identifying the span of years marine shells were deposited on ancient beaches. Also, whales were as likely to wash up on shore thousands of years ago as they do today.

    A new study (Souza et al., 2021) uses an alternative dating method to identify when beach ridge systems were still collection sites for sea shells along the west coast of Greenland (Disko Island). The authors find it “particularly interesting” that beach ridges were still elevated ~6 meters above modern sea levels less than 2,000 years ago, as previous studies have suggested the Disko Bay region’s sea levels should have fallen to below present sea level by this time. . . .
     
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    Here's another silly SLR claim.
    No, Yahoo News, Sea Level Is Not ‘Guaranteed’ To Rise by Five Feet
    SEA LEVEL NOVEMBER 1, 2021

    Today Yahoo News published a story by senior editor David Knowles, titled “Sea level is already guaranteed to rise by 5 feet, climate scientist says.” The story and the claims made by the activist/scientist are completely false.

    Without checking the data, Knowles built a whole story around a single opinion from Dr. Benjamin Strauss, who leads the media lobbying group, Climate Central.

    Strauss isn’t a climate scientist, he’s a biologist and zoologist. Writing opinions about sea-level rise doesn’t automatically convert him to the title.

    Strauss’s claim that five feet of future sea level rise in the “next few decades” is locked-in is little more than a headline grabber, which readily available data refutes. . . .
     
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    No Sea level rise in 140 years

    Holocene Climate

    Sydney Sea-Level Rise

    11/09/2019 14:50 - Posted by Tom van Leeuwen

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    According to the IPCC CO2-hypothesis, rising CO2-levels leads to warming. That warming supposedly expands sea-water and melts glaciers and polar ice-caps, finally resulting in rising sea-levels. They warn us for catastrophic sea-level rises in the year 2100 and beyond because of this process.

    Very revealing chart in the LINK
     
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    No SLR to see here. Move along.
    Great Barrier Reef: No Basis for Alarming Sea Fevel Fear, Second Report Finds
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    The notion that the sea may be rising more rapidly at Cooktown than at other places along the Reef is fanciful.

    ". . . Researcher and author of the Report, Australian scientist Dr. Bill Johnston, states, “Claims that anthropogenic global warming is causing sea level to rise, particularly in the northern sector of the Great Barrier Reef, are unfounded.

    “What the raw data from the Queensland Government Ports Authority website shows is an apparent rise of .036 metres per decade at Cooktown. This can be simplistically derived by comparing the start point of readings at Cooktown with the end point of the series over a period of years. However, such a method of analysing data by just comparing a start point with an end point is naïve. Instead, the mis-identified trend ‘found’ by such poor analysis is easily shown to be a series of sudden step-ups in the data, none of which is attributable to a change in climate.

    “It is misleading that researchers should label a series of step changes like this as a steadily rising trend,” says Johnston. . . . "
     
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    Watts Up With That?

    Sea Level Rise, Acceleration, and Closure
    5 years ago

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    Guest essay by Rud Istvan

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    Background

    There is no doubt that interglacials change sea level (SL). And that sea level rise (SLR) can be dramatic on millennial interglacial time scales. That’s what happens when the vast Laurentide ice sheet (among others) melts. But sea level has changed relatively little in the past 7 millennia. We know from archeology that it rose somewhat in the Medieval Warm Period, dropped some during the Little Ice Age, and has been rising slowly since based on tide gauge records. This mostly natural variation is, from 1950-2000, about +1.8mm/year to 2.2mm/year (discrepancy explanation and references follow below). That rate is no cause for alarm. We coped with it for the past century, and can cope with it for the next.

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    The data again refute the narrative.
    New Study: Pacific And Indian Ocean Sea Levels Rising ‘Much Slower Than Climate Model Predictions’
    By Kenneth Richard on 3. January 2022

    As Dr. Alberto Boretti asserts in a new paper, one of the main reasons why Pacific and Indian Ocean islands have not been mercilessly submerged beneath the sea as a consequence of today’s “catastrophic” climate change is that sea level rise has only been rising “very slowly” in these regions: 0.46 mm/year in recent decades. The acceleration is “an almost trivial” 0.0091 mm/year².

    Succinctly, “absolute sea levels are rising much slower than in climate model predictions.”

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    Image Source: Boretti, 2021
     
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    What do you mean “supposedly”

    This is basic physics water expands when heated

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    Arabian Journal of Geoscience? Really? Lols impact factor 1.87 - yeah! That one shakes up the scientific community - not!
    ANY journal article that does not discuss the fact that sea rise level changes vary locally is not worth the bandwidth it takes up

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    https://nerc.ukri.org/planetearth/stories/93/
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    http://www.climatedata.info/impacts/sea-levels/pacific-islands/
    If you want valid data on this go to the BOM Australia because WE do the monitoring
    http://www.bom.gov.au/oceanography/projects/spslcmp/data/monthly.shtml
     
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    Please address the data and do not attack the people.
     
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    Part of critical analysis is reviewing where the source material comes from and as I said I could not see anywhere in that article where it addresses local variance in sea level rise, in fact I could not see anywhere where it addressed factors affecting sea level rise such as prevailing winds, currents and land masses
     
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    There is no existing "lid" on the ocean surfaces, your diagram doesn't match reality of ocean conditions where thermal expansion isn't being retarded as the atmosphere is in direct contact with the ocean surface.

    It is clear you didn't read the article since he didn't say what YOU think he says he made clear what he meant when he posted the data on Fort Denison Sea levels.
     
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    Please, please stop making me laugh
     
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    Which part of the USA will succumb to SEA LEVEL RISE first?

    ~ Hopefully it will be Washington DC - with everyone on board ! Capitola Hill has needed a good flush for years ... :toilet:
     
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    Nah! The sheer force of the hot wind from the Capitol will keep the water at bay :p
     
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    ~ There is definitely enough wind and gas coming from up there to run the entire country ... :bleh: :nod:
     
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    Perhaps because those were not the topics of research.
    And "where the source material comes from" sounds like a dog whistle for bias (anti-Arab?).
     
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