White Ethnomasochism

So basically, the reason white liberals hate the white race is because they really hate themselves, and they hate themselves because they're lying to themselves?
I think the type of lefties you're talking about are super far left. Most liberals do believe in free speech and property rights.

But to bring it back to the original discussion, why do you think it is that minorities in other countries aren't taught by liberal media that nothing is their fault? Why does this only happen in the West?
And why are white conservatives okay with mass immigration and Whites becoming minorities in their own nations?

 

Left wingers (in the US) are not liberals in the true sense of the word. They have bastardized that word. They are stateist, fascist true believers in ultimate government power, and that includes speech and thought processes. There is no live and let live in them, you either believe their BS or you garner their wrath. Since they are still outnumbered here they are willing to sell us out, and currently that means by diluting our culture with immigrant criminals and terrorists. They don't GAS. The end goal is everything to them. Their means to achieve that goal and gain control is irrelevant. They are ruthless. That is why the past election was so crucial. The SCOTUS appointments were going to tilt the scales, not to mention we averted having the most corrupt President since Stalin assaulted the Russians.

 

Yet they also believe in social welfare programs.

You can't have both. Either you have property rights or you don't have property rights.

What makes you think that the media in Europe isn't teaching lefties that nothing is their fault? They're out there watching their women be raped by immigrants, and at the same time, holding up signs welcoming refugees. How many times has Merkel been voted back into office?

Europe is dead. It's a rotting corpse waiting to be buried, and the immigrants are going to bury it.

 

I don't call them liberals. I call them lefties. Hell, they don't call themselves liberals either, so I have no idea why people keep calling them what they aren't, or even pretend to be.

 

How does having social welfare programs prevent us from having property rights?

Yes, because Europeans are white, and the Jewish media teaches white people that non-white races can do no wrong. Speaking out against the mass rapes would be "racist." You wouldn't see this happen in Asia, because "Asian guilt" isn't a thing.
And no, most conservative Europeans don't want to close the borders because, just like in America, they think the white ethnicities dying out is fine as long as it's through legal immigration.

 

How do those programs get funded? Through taxes, yes? Who pays those taxes, and what do they pay them with? Their money that they earned! And that money equals wealth that is their property.

Charity is how people who don't have a pot to piss in get a pot to piss in. That's how it's done in a free society.

 

Well the way I look at it, we need taxes. Not just for social welfare programs, but also for schools, police, roads, subways, firefighters, and plenty of other essential things. I doubt charity will pay for all of that when so many rich people don't even give their employees health insurance if they don't have to.
I still value property rights. I think taxes should be low except for the super rich, and I don't believe in the communist idea that we shouldn't have private property.

 

First, I do think ethnomasochism/white guilt is a uniquely white thing. I never said otherwise. I just think that you can see how it's a logical extension of certain aspects of Western Culture and Christianity.

Second, speaking of Christianity, the religion I see more commonly associated with this sort of disabling mentality is Lutheranism, as well as a few other Christian denominations. No Jews in sight on Sunday morning at a Lutheran service.

 

Apparently I would like it because of my 'white guilt'.

What absurd logic. Apparently because I am a white conservative against illegal immigration, I am all for mass 'legal' immigration of middle easterners because I feel guilty of my ethnicity, and I apparently want to feel guilty and or are fine with being guilty. Your logic is so full of assumptions and impossible to follow. I have seen some trash on this forum, but the garbage you just regurgitated is probably the worst, as it masquerades behind fancy words and implied 'fact' which is really just your opinion. A mod should give you a littering ticket for polluting our forum. good day sir.

 

How is it a logical extension of certain aspects of Western culture? I would say this attitude actually goes against the Western concept of logic over emotion, which we've been trying since the French Enlightenment with varying success.

So a little disclosure. I'm an Atheist and I don't really see religious texts as being that important in society, because the government or media simply interprets the religion however they want. When the government wanted Europeans to be bloodthirsty warriors who killed Pagans and Muslims, that was Christianity. When the government wanted Europeans to open their arms to foreigners, then that was Christianity. Today the media is defining Christianity, and it's vastly different between continents.

But okay, let's say Christianity, with its concepts of love for everyone, blessing the meek, disliking the rich, and embracing emotion over logic, actually is the cause of ethnomasochism. Why isn't this present in other Christian areas like Sub-Sahara Africa or Latin America? Those areas are way more religious than Europe, Australia, or even America.

 

I don't think every single white conservative is in favor of mass legal immigration, just like not every single Jew plays a role in the propagation of white guilt. We're speaking generally here.

So let me ask you. Are you opposed to mass immigration that transforms white nations into multiracial/multicultural nations, regardless of whether it happens legally or illegally?

 

The legality IS the issue. You cannot separate the two. If its done legally, there is an implication that the foreigners are acceptable people who want to come here the right way. I don't have a problem with that. Whites as a minority is a forgone conclusion already, and doesn't play into my opinions one way or the other.

 

Whites as a minority is only a forgone conclusion because of the path that we're on. If Europe's various governments decided to leave the EU and close their borders, wouldn't that be good?

 

I like the EU as a concept separate from economics. Doesn't fit into your opinion.

 

I like it as a concept too, but it's taken away the ability for its members to control their own borders.
But this is besides the point.

Should nations like Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Germany, Austria, Switzerland, the UK, France, and so on close their borders so they don't become minorities to the growing Muslim population?

 

I think the idea that there are enough immigrants ANYWHERE in the world to completely majoritieze... is that a word?.... another country, is naïve. Therefore I don't give credence to the opinion that countries should not be open due to fear of immigrants becoming a majority. However, fear of immigrants intentions, culture, violent beliefs, can and should be considered.

 

See what happens when breeding is not controlled with those damn humans?

 

Yet another jew hater heard from about - YAWN - the global jewish conspiracy.

gotta have a boogeyman to explain why so many white christian nationalists believe themselves to be oppressed by the concept of equal rights and freedoms.


I am glad you have no white guilt, but I'm curious what you did with the video.

 

Seriously? You don't think there are enough people anywhere in the world to become a majority in a country like Denmark due to a combination of mass immigration, low Danish birthrates, and high birthrates among the immigrant population? That sounds completely possible to me.
What about Balkanization? Do you think it's possible that what happened in Kosovo could happen in Denmark?

Let's just say it is possible for Arabs to become the majority in Denmark. Does that mean Denmark should close its borders in order to stay Danish?

 

There is no global Jewish conspiracy. There are simply aspects of Jewish culture that cause Jews in power to push for globalization, mass immigration, and multiculturalism in Western nations.

You misunderstood the video completely.
It's saying that Whites are taught that losing their culture, becoming minorities in their own nations, and possessing ethnic guilt are all good things. My question is: why is this attitude ONLY present in the West?

 

Even an atheist should recognize that religion effects culture. Christianity, at large, has manifested itself in many different ways. The conquistador's Catholic Church has little relation to the Catholic Church of the current Pope. Southern Baptists are not Episcopalians, and Episcopalians are not the Anglican Church of centuries ago (or the Anglican/Episcopalian Church in Africa today). In it's current form, Mainline Protestantism in the US is very much an ethno-masochist / white guilt church.

You were just going after the wrong religion, and I was just pointing that out.

 

I'm not sure about that. I think Pew Polling shows that there are about 600 million people in the third world who would head for the West if they could. That's more than enough to "minoritize (if that's a word)" every single Western country.

 

Oh, absolutely. What I'm saying is that the religious text itself means nothing. Religion in America is not the Bible. Religion in America is how the American media interprets the Bible. And like you said, that interpretation is different around the world. All that matters is which people are in control, and what they want to do with the Bible, Koran, Vedas, or whatever

So back to my original question. How come ethnomasochism is so common in the West? If the reason is Lutheranism, why are non-white Lutheran countries not like this?

 

I reject your characterization of jewish actions. the over achievement of jews within modern society is a by product of a couple of millennia of oppression. History demonstrates rather consistently that the jews were stripped of wealth and property when convenient for the ruling powers that be. You can take away possessions, but you can't take away education and knowledge. Thus the heavy emphasis within the culture on academic achievement.

Economic and social globalization is an inevitable progression, due to increasing economic interdependence and the global digital communications social revolution we are experiencing. A moment in history.

Is there in fact a "white culture"? Is it the same as western culture, or euro culture or christian culture? Seems to me the issue of "white culture" is only relevant to those that think that skin color is some how an indication of value. Irish culture is different than Italian culture is different from Swedish culture is different than french culture is different than english culture is different than russian culture, and on and on and on. If the only determination for your "white culture" is the color of one's skin, then that is a gross distortion of reality.

 

I've already answered this, and gave a better explanation than your theory: "the jooos!"