White House not ruling out Putin proposal to let Russia question ex-US ambassador, prominent financi

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    Why did the Trump DOJ appoint one?
     
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    Why would anyone meet voluntarily with a country that murdered his friend and convicted him in abstentia?
     
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    Are you in favor of people doing to America anything we may have also done?
    We’ve bombed people so it’s ok to bomb us? Is that your view?
     
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    If the President requested it that should carry a lot of weight. Also if it could get us an interview with the big 12 perhaps out of altruism.
     
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    I'm sure he will. He is never going to give up the guys that he ordered to interfere in American elections.

    There is also a huge difference between the legal systems in the two countries. In America there is rule of law and due process. The right to a free, fair and open trial.

    In Russia there is whatever Putin wants.

    There have been enough sham trials and convictions, and political opponents killed in and out of custody that it is absolutely clear that no-one will get a fair trial in Russia if the charges have anything to do with politics.
     
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    An interview in Russia. Where they routinely murder disedents and reporters?
    Why would we need to interview them in Russia? Do you think there is any chance he extradites them?
     
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    Whitehouse now saying they disagree with putins offer.
    Translation: people who aren’t morons told trump that idea is insane
     
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    Well our only chance to talk with them would be in Russia. I don't believe Russia would ever allow them to be extradited.
     
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    Then what would be the point?
     
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    If our country would stoop so low as to turn over one of our ambassadors to an enemy country we might as well shut down the country because we would no longer be the land of the free or the home of the brave.
     
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    Pretty much, you don't see any of them here do you.
     
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    How do you stop it if you don’t invesigate who did it, how and who helped them?
     
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    What if it was a country that we had an extradition treaty with?
     
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    Apparently the WH has now rejected the offer.

    So I guess we will now hear you criticise the president for being an incompetent negotiator who has now tanked the possibility of making any progress ... right?
     
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    What was the point of the indictment? We could hope to get info about anything they may have done concerning our election. We'll certainly never arrest any of them.
     
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    Who said anything about turning over an ambassador?
     
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    1. They can never leave Russia now
    2. Helps us know what they did and how
    3. Makes it harder to fire mueller
    4. Helps the case against the coconspirators
    5. Helps build a criminal conspiracy charge if someone was helping them
     
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    White House says Trump "disagrees" with Putin's proposal to question Americans

    White House press secretary Sarah Sanders just issued a statement that says President Trump disagrees with Russian President Vladimir Putin's proposal to question Americans, including the former US ambassador to Russia.

    "It is a proposal that was made in sincerity by President Putin, but President Trump disagrees with it," she said. "Hopefully President Putin will have the 12 identified Russians come to the United States to prove their innocence or guilt."
    Wait... what proposal?

    The White House said on Wednesday it is entertaining a proposal raised by Russian President Vladimir Putin to interrogate Americans in exchange for assistance in the ongoing US investigation into election interference.

    Putin raised the idea in his summit talks with President Trump on Monday, according to White House press secretary Sarah Sanders. The Americans wanted for questioning by Moscow include Michael McFaul, the former US ambassador to Russia, and American-born financier Bill Browder, who successfully lobbied the US government to impose new sanctions on Moscow.

    Sanders indicated on Wednesday no final decision had been made but that the proposal was under consideration.

    "The President's going to meet with his team and we'll let you know when we have an announcement on that," she said.

    That response drew outcry from diplomats and lawmakers.
    https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-today-07-19-18/index.html

    Just watched the Senate vote 98-0 not to allow this also.
     
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    Same diference because we are a country that honors our obligation to our diplomatic corps. We, on our side, are not talking about spies or criminals we are talking about diplomats. Putin did not like Ambsdr Mcfaul because Mcfaul told the truth about Russia becoming an autocratic Hitlerite -Stalinistic cesspool.

    If a host country does not like an ambassador or any diplomat then they are to declare him/ them persona non grata and send them home. We do not allow a dictator to try and equate our ambassador to scum turd trolls and spies.
     
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    Same diference if we send an ambassador to Russia to be be "waterboarded " that is turning him over. We should not even allow Russian FSB agents to talk to him even on our turf.
     
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    Senate votes 98-0 to reject Putin's proposal to interrogate US officials despite Trump reversal

    From CNN's Phil Mattingly

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    The US Senate just voted 98-0 to oppose a Putin proposal to interrogate US officials, even after a last-minute reversal by President Trump.

    The resolution was crafted after the White House appeared yesterday to be open to the idea, which would have included Russian prosecutors interviewing former U.S. Ambassador Michael McFaul.

    The White House decision not to reject the idea outright garnered outrage from lawmakers in both parties on Capitol Hill.

    Shortly before the vote was scheduled to occur, White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders said in a statement that the proposal was made “in sincerity by President Putin, but President Trump disagrees with it.”

    Every present Senator voted in favor of the resolution, which expressed the sense of the Senate that no current or former diplomat, civil servant, law enforcement official, member of the Armed Forces or political appointee should be made available to Putin’s government for an interrogation.

    Schumer called on Trump to speak out: Ahead of the vote, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer called on President Trump to personally reject Russian President Vladimir Putin's proposal to interview American officials, including former US ambassador to Russia, Michael McFaul.

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    "Let this resolution be a warning to the administration that Congress will not allow this to happen," Schumer said. "I call on President Trump to say once and for all not through his spokespeople that the lopsided disgraceful trade he called an 'incredible offer' is now off the table."
    Schumer added it was "neither the policy nor the practice of the United States to submit our citizens, let alone our ambassadors to a foreign adversary."
    https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-today-07-19-18/index.html

    Incidentally, Putin is telling his people that "certain powers" are working to undo the results of the Helsinki summit due to their own ambitions. Just saw that in today's Russian RT propaganda article that I signed up to receive by email. :D
     
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    I just posted a thread with a Fox link on this.
     
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    Which dictator is that? Putin was elected and all polls show he has a majority of support in Russia.

    Fun reading Democrats rush to the defense of someone who didn't pay $1 on taxes on $70,000,000 by disavowing his American citizenship. But in reality, Democrats in Congress always support the SUPER RICH paying $0 taxes and the Democratic Party hates American citizens anyway.
     
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    No we don’t. Case in point the CIA agents that Italy wanted tried for the rendition in 2003. We refused to turn them over. One of them was apprehended in Portugal and we got her out.


    Well what was he possibly going to do? He had limited support in this issue.
     
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