White House planning to proceed with State of the Union, but details up in the air after Pelosi thre

This is all nonsense and jibberish. Nowhere is it being claimed he is going to be physically stopped from entering.

So now we’re arrestng political opponents? Where have I seen that happen?



He doesn’t rule the house. He has the authority to instruct they have a session. That’s it. That’s all. Standard rules and procedures dictate the rest and none say a sitting President can walk in and take over the preceding.

I would like to know why when the Speaker refused Obama, you apparently were ok with it?

 

The Constitution does not confer ownership of the House chamber to pelosi

And to my knowlege the repub speaker never tried to prevent obama from addessing congress

 

No saying the Constitution does. But house rules and procedures do.

Is it you position that the Constitution given the executive branch the express powers to take control of the Legislative proceedings?


August 2011 - Boehner did.

 

You will have to be more specific than that

 

If pelosi does not physically stop trump then he gives the speech

Which is what I hope happens

 

So to hell with rules of the house? Why the hell have them then?

So in your mind he is going to just walk in and up to the podium against all decorum and procedure of the house and just start flapping his gums?

And I love how conservatives have all changed their mind about the SOTU. Never mind when they were pushing the house to uninvite Barack in 2014.

 

That has been true in the past. My guess is that Trump shows up in the house chamber with or without Pelosi's approval. It will be the first time in history however I have no doubt he will do it. What's Pelosi going to do? Lock the door? More likely she either boycotts or sits like a prune in her throne.

 

The rules of the house apply to house members

But during joint and specisl sessons those rules do not apply

 

It will look bad for her and for the nation

 

But I suspect pelosi will not push it because she is better informed than the trump haters on this forum and kn the media

 

Sure he does...Art II gives him authority to dsitrub th proceeding of the House.....well Congress in general.

 

But it wouldn’t have in 2014?

https://www.google.com/amp/www.msnb...-state-the-union-plan-continues-percolate/amp


Another plan we find out first thought up by the Republican side.

Or 2011?

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/boehner-says-no-so-obama-shifts-speech-to-thursday/

 

What if Nancy builds a wall around the House chambers, then what ?

 

Article II Sec 3 does not say he can disturb proceedings at all.

But it was the Republicans who first floated idea of uninviting the President so they would know this already.

Nancy just asked for a different date.

 

Nancy Pelosi is just acting like a child and is fearful of our President making a speech to the American people that she knows she cannot respond to. Reminder, this is the face she was making during the President's last SOTU Address:



Pelosi is bad for the country. If Democrats had not cheated and harvested illegal votes, she would not be speaker right now. Too bad, we all suffer for it now.

 

Yep...says he can call in a special session, adjourn them, to when he sees proper, convene either House....that's all ways of distrubing the proceedings. I mean he can literally adjourn them, for as long as he wants

 

I don't see in either link where the Speaker of the House attempted to cancel the SOTU

 

Letter from the President to Speaker Pelosi:

"The Honorable Nancy Pelosi
Speaker of the House of Representatives
Washington, D.C. 20515

Dear Madam Speaker:

Thank you for your letter of January 3, 2019, sent to me long after the Shutdown began, inviting me to address the Nation on January 29th as to the State of the Union. As you know, I had already accepted your kind invitation, however, I then received another letter from you dated January 16, 2019, wherein you expressed concerns regarding security during the State of the Union Address due to the Shutdown. Even prior to asking, I was contacted by the Department of Homeland Security and the United States Secret Service to explain that there would be absolutely no problem regarding security with respect to the event. They have since confirmed this publicly.

Accordingly, there are no security concerns regarding the State of the Union Address. Therefore, I will be honoring your invitation, and fulfilling my Constitutional duty, to deliver important information to the people and Congress of the United States of America regarding the State of our Union.

I look forward to seeing you on the evening on January 29th in the Chamber of the House of Representatives. It would be so very sad for our Country if the State of the Union were not delivered on time, on schedule, and very importantly, on location!

Sincerely,

Donald J. Trump"

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/letter-president-speaker-pelosi/

 

But but but harvesting ballots and breaking the custody of a ballot isn't a bad thing just like "MS-13 aren't so bad."

Unless it happens in the 9th Congressional district in North Carolina then the Democrats yell and scream "VOTER FRAUD."

 

First link was a no to a joint session request. That was cool with you back then?


Second was merely stating it was Republicans idea.

Finally. neither did Nancy.

 

A Joint Session request isn't the SOTU...Nancy has stated she wants to cancel the currently scheduled SOTU.

 

Both sides had that opportunity and both sides are to blame for the shut down.
1. The Republican congress, house if you will failed to do their job and have all 12 appropriations bills passed on time and signed into law prior to the end of the fiscal year. Only 5 of the 12 were passed and signed into law. Hence the partial government shutdown.
2. September, the Republican congress passed a CR for funding for the remaining 7 departments, agencies through 6 Dec I believe. When Trump signed that CR into law, he stated then that this would be the last CR he signed without funding for his wall. Warnings had been given.
3. December, the Republican House passed the CR with funding for the wall. But Schumer and the Democrats filibustered it preventing a vote on the CR. Without the Democratic filibuster, there would have been no shutdown.
4. January, Pelosi and the Democratic house passed a CR without funding for the wall. McConnell tabled that bill.

So here we are. Without the Democratic filibuster the government would have been opened, no shutdown. Without McConnell tabling the CR passed by the Democratic house in January, the shutdown would have come to an end.

So you figure out whom to blame. Seems both sides on this issue has blood on their hands. this whole shutdown is 100% pure partisan politics by both sides. If we had adults in Washington instead of partisan hacks, a compromise would have been reached long ago. As is the norm with partisan hacks, each side blames the other when both sides could have reached a compromise and kept the government open.

Enjoy your partisan battle over 5 billion dollars which is approximately 0.0125%, somewhere between one one hundredth to two one hundredth of a single percentage point of what the government will spend this year. Is that worth it? Apparently both sides think so.

 

No she didn’t. She asked for a postponement. Woopity do. So you get it Feb 9th instead of Jan 29th. Doesn’t it matter really that much?

And the SOTU is a absolutely a joint session. Just not one called by the President.

Then again it’s neat to see the Democrats discuss a Republican idea no? Who says they can’t agree?

 

Your first link is a whole bunch of nothing

Unnamed members allegedly were discussing a plan you oppose obamas SOTU speech

But no names were mebtioned and it was nothing but a rumor

In the second case obama made a last minute request to address congress and boehnor asked him to make it one day later

If thats the best you can do take up a different hobby

 

I wasn't aware that he was invited by her but if so, she would now have to dis-invite him. That would not make her look good at all.