White Nationalism is a Republican Crisis

"There’s nothing wrong with white nationalism."

Other than that it's unnecessarily disruptive, divisive, and has a completely unachievable goal.

 

LMAO...it’s all that and more, friend.
The crap just keeps piling deeper.

 

Lol...it’s the heart and soul of trump’s party.

 

Tell us, Jake, do Black Nationalists love the United States? Do they cherish our sovereignty, our independence, our relative economic prosperity? Are there any Black Nationalists? Why does such an overpowering majority of Blacks convey the reinforced impression that they HATE everything that ever did 'make America great'?

Why do they relish their image as crass opportunists who demand 'reparations' and other 'free stuff' from the government? Do they have no higher aspirations beyond pillaging, stealing, and siphoning-off what others invented and built?!

 

:smh:

You never once addressed the topic of the OP.

No response, or contribution to the thread topic, beyond Blatant Trolling and Personal Insults?

If that is all that you have to "contribute", you may want to brush up on your Forum Etiquette.

^Nothing personal, just a friendly suggestion.

As far as the actual OP Topic, once again, it is patently obvious the the GOP intends to do nothing to alienate the White Supremacists (who, apparently, feel welcome under "Trump's Big Tent").

Carry on.

 

lol - typical progressive response when they lack anything substantial to post.

 

So let's start thinking about a peaceful separation. It's a radical idea, but so was America's initial separation.

People on the Left should start this idea running -- not as a proposal for immediate implementation, just something
to consider and discuss. Think how much better your new country would be, if it was all a giant San Francisco or Portland.
There are many practical issues that would have to be negotiated. But it can be done.

It would be good if the Left began talking about an amicable divorce. Or even an angry one: you could call it, "Take
Out the (white) Trash!" or something like that.

With us gone, you could have any border policy you like, any gun control policy you like, any health care policy you like.
Think of the advantages!

But someone -- some group -- has to start talking about it as a serious proposition.

 

The Current Truth™

 

Or they could swim to Cuba. Michael Moore tells me it's a "progressive" utopia, and who doesn't love the Caribbean?

 

Has the DNC done anything to dissuade the support of the radicals supporting them?

 

(1) They're not all stupid. A quick visit to Cuba (which I made three years ago) will convince you that no one wants to live there, certainly not the Cubans. They would gladly exchange places with the privileged spoiled lefty brats. I travelled around the island by bus, stayed in private homes, and did not meet a single supporter of the government. Anyway, Cuba's too small, they should go to Venezuela.

(2) The problem is, they're going to outnumber us, probably already do. Most conservatives don't see the writing on the wall. We're going to be in an ever-diminishing minority: imagine a Democratic President with super-majorities in the House and Senate. It could happen. Imagine some convenient deaths among the Supremes (not deliberate, just the course of nature). At the national level, they would have a permanent majority. They will open the borders, geld the military and police, begin the process of gun confiscation, and start transferring resources from the tax payers to the tax eaters. I'm not talking about next year, but about the next decade or two.

We must start planning to leave. It will be much much easier if a lot of the people on the Left want us to go. So we must get them thinking about it. Initially, just raising the idea until it becomes 'normalized'. Then the mechanics of it can be discussed. But the idea must be put into their heads and nurtured, not as a trick, but as an open, honest proposal to avoid something very unpleasant.

 

Some murders subscribe to the left agenda, I thought you knew that. You are right about Americans growing up, starting with the man in the mirror.

 

That would be all of us, yes.

 

Anti-white racism is a Democratic crisis...

See? I said it, so it's true. That's how this works.

Same thing with being accused of being a rapist. I'd accuse OP of raping me thus, making it true (evidence be damned) but I've been warned about that before.

 

Not in the slightest. There is some black nationalism that is wrong on attitude towards whites, but it is the violent white nationalism that imperils the nation.

 

I think you and Texas Republican are using the term differently.

Nationalists want their 'nation' to be utterly dominant in their state, if possible, occupying their state alone. Where this is not easily achieved, they come down very hard on the other 'nations' who share the same territory.

A good example is India: a prisonhouse of nations, like the old Czarist Empire, but with the Hindus dominant. (This is why I put 'nation' in quote marks: a better word would be 'tribe', because 'nation' is often used just to mean 'the population of a state'.)

The people who ran India tried, and tried, to make their country a secular republic, in contrast to Islamic Pakistan. But it never took. The 10% or so Muslim minority are not happy, are looked on as a potential Pakistani Fifth Column, and have been the subject of horrific pogroms, with hundreds, even thousands, murdered in the streets, and no punishment for the murderers. The province of Kashmir --- now in the news -- should have gone to Pakistan at Partition, as its inhabitants are mainly Muslims. An accident of history -- the bizarre choice of its ruler to opt for India, the only Muslim province to do so -- gave it to India, which has occupied it and committed many atrocities there ever since.

Now the little autonomy it had has been taken away by India's Hindu nationalist president, so that Hindus can move in and replace the indigenous population -- exactly like the Jewish settlers on the West Bank (The Sikhs suffer from the same problem. )

As a side comment: India and Pakistan are both nuclear-armed powers. They've been to war, and semi-wars, several times in the past. For God's sake, let's stay the hell out of this one. India has produced some brilliant computer whizzes -- let's offer all of them immediate American citizenship and then let nature take its course over there. Pakistan eats hundreds of millions of US dollars, courtesy of the anesthetized US taxpayer. Some of it sticks to the pockets of Pakistani generals and some is passed on to their client jihadi groups, which show not an ounce of gratitude to us for it.

Let's not kid ourselves.There is certainly the potential for a white nationalist movement in America, seeking a racially-pure homeland for itself. All our public probaganda, training, teaching, cultural productions, for the last fifty years, has tried to instill the vision of a multi-racial, culturally-united America in the population. It has gone deep, but could be burned out, because to some extent it runs against nature. The Left will, unwittingly, do all it can to bring a white nationalist movement into being, but we shouldn't help them in this in any way.

 

That's a long swim...

I've already lit out for the territories, but things may not turn out as bad as you might think.

First of all, the "progressive" yuppie's disdain for "flyover country" and the people who live there may actually work in our favor. As long as they remain in their increasingly squalid, violent and bankrupt enclaves the political balance of power may not shift irrevocably to the Left. However, if they scatter across our country like a plague of locusts America is screwed.

Secondly, one has to remember that people have a tendency to become increasingly conservative with age. Many of today's Democrats will be tomorrow's Republicans (and libertarians).

Third, the younger generations don't seem to be as idealistic and delusional as Baby Boomers were during the 1960s. If they're as self-centered as people would have me believe that should be a good thing in the long term - they'll be more inclined to value individual freedom as they get older.

Finally, from what I've read, Righties are having more children than Lefties. If demographics is indeed destiny, then things are looking pretty good. It also might explain why I'm seeing more conservative and libertarian youth groups (ex. Young America's Foundation, Students for Liberty, et al) than I recall seeing in my youth.

I will say, however, there is a certain genius to your idea that I find appealing, however, it's not beyond the realm of possibility that the shoe could wind up on the other foot.

 

All that you have is Off-Topic "Whataboutism"?

THIS Thread ISN'T about the DNC.

If you feel that the issue stated in your post is worthy of discussion, then I would respectfully suggest that you start a new thread in the appropriate forum.

Instead of posting Off-Topic in this one.

Carry on.

 

"Progressive" hysteria - it's not just for breakfast anymore.

 

It's the Default Position:



"RACISTS!! WHITE NATIONALISTS!!!"

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

 

"I think you and Texas Republican are using the term differently."

I'm sorry for being dense but I can't find anything, in your post, to indicate that the other poster and I are using different definitions of 'white-nationalism'.

"There is certainly the potential for a white nationalist movement in America, seeking a racially-pure homeland for itself."

There exists, at present, an insignificant "white-nationalist" movement. I expect it to remain an insignificant, fringe movement.

"All our public probaganda, training, teaching, cultural productions, for the last fifty years, has tried to instill the vision of a multi-racial, culturally-united America in the population."

I disagree with this. In my view, several decades of propaganda have been used, by the left, to create racial and cultural divisions, and therefore strife. My view is that the concept of "multi-culturalism" was conceived to encourage the development of a society in which individuals have less and less in common. This is commonly known as "divixe and conquer".

"The Left will, unwittingly, do all it can to bring a white nationalist movement into being, but we shouldn't help them in this in any way."

I think that the real danger, the danger that we are well on the way toward, is the defacto establishment of a leftist totalitarian state.

 

Republican "whataboutism" is failure from the get go.

 

So, all you've got is another Copy & Paste post.

That's okay, no one was expecting you to answer CD's question. We all know the answer is NO:



Funny how it's always Democrats who show up in photos cozying up to racists and Jew-hating bigots...

 

Well, I truly hope so. Even the most favorable outcome of a divided America would, overall, be a bad thing for the world.

However, I'm one of those guys who always prepares for the worst -- spare fan belt and five extra gallons of gas in the camper, etc -- and raising the idea of a peaceful separation now, in every political quarter, might help move things more easily in a good direction later, should it become necessary. Over fifty years, I've seen our friends on the Left embrace things that would have been considered, even by them, unthinkable a few decades ago. And these changes are like a ratchet -- once tightened, you don't easily relax it.

As for locusts -- twenty five years ago I recall seeing bumper stickers in Washington State -- "Don't Californicate Washington" ... now I read they're even heading for Texas, following the employers who are fleeing the Golden State.

 

Oh? Ok.

Even before Trump started cozying up to White Supremacists, he had a penchant for Convicted Murderers.



Checkmate. Thanks for playing.