Whites OBJECTIVELY Have Less Rights than Minorities

I know! After reading that particular post, I just had to say "Thank you".
Now---I'll only read the posts, I won't say anything.

 

These aren’t mere anecdotes.You are obviously a white man because if you weren’t you would realize that these “anecdotes” are systematic and institutional.

 

I’m glad you’re proud of being Norwegian because Norwegians face such prejudice in our country lol .... and not only are you equal to minorities but you have privileges that they didn’t have for hundreds of years

 

Why do you keep thinking that white people are being discriminated against? What specifically are you denied

 

Affirmative action was not created to benefit white men who have every benefit at their fingertips now and have had for hundreds of years. Black people and women have not had equal rights and as a result are way behind.It’s called leveling the playing field. You are not denied anything

 

True.

By Norwegian Standards, my appearance and physique are not much to look at, but by any other standard, I'm in like the 99.9th percentile in terms of appearance and physique.

 

What rights have whites lost? Specifically.
How has this loss of rights personally affected you, or anyone you know?

 

Hope that’s not your picture

 

Of course it isn't

This is my real pic

 

I’ve already expressed that several times but I’ll do it again.

We have the right to be treated equally under the law and not be discriminated against based upon our race.

But our government provides tax credits for businesses who hire minority contractors but do not provide that same tax credit for white contractors. We essentially pay businesses to hire minorities over white men.

You asked how it affects me. I’m a contractor. I compete against minority contractors on a daily basis. My competitors can put a bid in that’s worse than mine, but because that extra cost is offset (and more) by the tax credits that the business receives because they hire a black guy instead of a white one the employer can choose the black guy with a bid worse than me and still make more money.

The only way for me to get a contract is to come in significantly less, reducing any real profit and making it exceedingly difficult to compete, simply because my skin is white.

 

Why is it desirable to achieve average equality among race and sex groups? What's the benefit?

 

Already said. Equity and efficiency go hand in hand.

 

But is it beneficial? If all groups are equal does that benefit you or me or anyone? What does it do for people?

 

Equity benefits those currently discriminated against. Efficiency can benefit us all. It certainly creates positive spillover effects through higher productivity.

 

OK, so NO rights have been taken away from whites.

Yes, the gov't is working to equalize some playing fields, that isn't discrimination against whites. I am sure most of the thread is about telling you this.

The AA stuff only pertains to gov't work. If you're bidding non gov't jobs, AA or your supposed discrimination isn't impacted.
And just like any organization hiring contractors, they can set the bidding process how they want, yes? And businesses are free to bid or not bid on them based on rules.

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Let's see if you really believe that.

Sure, why not.

We can start with the existence of the Neanderthal, first. Did Neanderthal invent himself, or was Neanderthal descended from a genus above his own? What was the RNA/DNA ratio composition of the first Homind and did Hominid self-instantiate, was he derived through prior genetic transformations from within his own genus, or was he literally created through biological manipulations by an outside Species having full sentience and corporeal existence, but who left no trace of its physical existence on planet earth? What is the earliest extant anthropological evidence for the existence of Hominid that has not been proven a fake of false science to support the oddity that Caucasians are superior to Humans - can you find any extant and reliable (vetted outside and in addition to western academic domains) older than roughly 47,000 years?

Did the Greeks have a protoscript alphabet of their own prior to encountering the Humans of Ancient Kemet? Where did the Greeks obtain their language in point of origin relative to its Phonetics? Who were the Phoenicians, what was their ethnic origin, what was their geographic origin and what was their root genetic origin on planet earth? Did the Phoenicians develop their own protoscript, or did they obtain that capacity from a prior civilization and if so, can you name the civilization and the People who produced it? And, this is not even the proverbial tip of the iceberg that would need to be un-checked and re-checked in your mind before your re-education can begin on Real World History.

When you talk about "contributions," there is no contribution greater than Genetic Origins. Greece, had no civilization prior to that which had been produced by Humans, hundreds of thousands of years before the first Caucasian was ever invented. When you originate from someone having an existence eons before you, the only "contribution" you will make is that of an Extensible nature, not that of an Original nature. When you do not even possess language base, when you do not possess a written history, when you produced no public architecture even remotely close to that which came before by thousands of years, when you travel to and live among others for the sole purpose of learning science, mathematics, medicine, law, chemistry (formerly Alchemy), architecture, literature, city planning, family planning, civil engineering, aqua engineering and all the foundation disciplines that you then take back to your homeland to make it "Great Again," then you have extended that which you took from its source and origin - you did not create the concept, you did not invent the idea, laid not one single cerebral cell on the instantiation of the foundation material - you were taught by others and you then made what you were taught Extensible through your own further developments. But, you originated nothing when your Greatest Minds went to live among those who were in existence thousands of years prior and who laid the intellectual foundations upon which you now learn from in their Temples and Halls of Learning.

Now, name the Great Civilization that made all this possible for the Greeks. If you can accurately do that, then I can rest my case. If you are too smothered in the delusional revision of Real World History, where by some magical reinvention of the space-time continuum or in some alternate universe or some parallel thread within our known universe, you falsely assign the origination for the foundations of Advanced Civilization to the Greeks, then without question your re-education will continue here.

Your move.

 

Exactly which playing fields need to be equalized and on what grounds?

And it’s not racial prejudice and discrimination against whites?

So if we had a program where we provided tax credits to businesses who hired white contractors but excluded blacks from providing those tax credits, you wouldn’t consider that racial prejudice and discrimination? I call BS on that

No it’s not just government agencies it’s private businesses who hire contractors as well.

And no the constitution says that we are supposed to have equality under the law. Please explain to me how providing tax credits for one race to be hired but not another is IN ANY WAY equality under the law.

 

Your are welcome.

Regarding the "pathology." That pathology did not exist in my Ancestor's paradigm. You don't get the socially engineered concept of "White Supremacy" until well after the European nations had been seated in History and the most virulent version of that did not come about until the 17th through 19th centuries in support of the false paradigm that "Whites" were intellectually superior to all others. Not only was this an absurd notion coming out of Spain, France and Germany (later propagated by the British and eventually the United States of America), but it was erroneously tied to Darwinism and the illogical pseudo science of Evolution. All of that merged with the false taxonomy of "race" classification for the purpose of locking in the senseless idea that European "Whites" should dominate the world. We've seen proofs of that over the centuries through all Western religious institutions, political institutions, economic systems and especially within all Western Educational Systems.

Thus, the "pathology" was pushed down into Western Educational Systems from Great Britain, all the way to the United States of America (eventually). So, when I say "pathological" - I'm not merely referring to those who call themselves "White Supremacists." I'm speaking to an entire World Paradigm. You would have to dig deep into World History in order to have enough information about the source and origin of this "pathology" sufficient to connect the dots and trace its roots up through today.

This gets down to my post above where I outline that fact that all our socially engineered issues today, stem from lies told about who we are, how we got here and what existed before this current Western World Paradigm. That requires looking at the genetic migration paths around the world and comparing that to what we know about anthropology, archaeology and the written History of previous Civilizations. When you begin studying that (and it would take years of study), you begin to see that what's written in the Western History Books and taught in most Western Educational Systems is not merely "inaccurate" by chance, but literally engineered and designed to mask or hide the truth of Real World History.

You can start with the Civilizations that existed well before Ancient Kemet and Ancient Mesopotamia. When you do that, you see nothing but Melanated Humans having established functional and peaceful Civilizations and where they were working with nature as opposed to always trying to dominate it. You can understand this through studying both Nubia, Kush and Ethiopia. Even many (too many) so-called "Black Historians" like to start with Ancient Kemet (Greek: Egypt) as the point of origin for Civilization in the world. That is not even remotely correct. Ancient Kemet, was the culmination of over 18,000 years of Civilization in both Upper and Lower Motherland, what you now call "Africa" today. Ancient Kemet, took what those People had already developed and Extended it through the Great Pharaonic Dynasties, including the Pre-Dynastic periods. So, neither Kemet, nor Mesopotamia were the first. Yet, they were all born from what you now call "Black" People.

The "pathology" is that which attempts to erase and whitewash the Real World History that originates with Humans, who were all (again, what you now call) "Black" People. There is no original organic Human History that exists outside of "Black People. None. Not on this planet. Maybe on some other planet, but certainly not here. Thus, mine is to cause "Black" People to begin to understand who they are, where they come from and to whom they belong Historically and Genetically.

Most (the VAST majority) of so-called "Black" People, do not understand who or what they are. This is the "pathology." We are all negatively impacted by it in this current Paradigm. None of my Ancestors had this problem, however. They knew full well who they were and where they come from. Much of that is lost, covered-up and re-written "History" today. I am to expose it, revive it and cause every single "Black" person to fully understand that they were never "Black" in the first place. Not even Herodotus, called my Ancestors "Black" people when he first encountered them coming from Greece. This is because the term "Black" was not in use then. That is because there was no false "racial" classification during that time. Thus, there were no "White" people. Not even the Greeks, walked around calling themselves "White." And, they most certainly did not travel to Kemet, living there within Kemetain Society while calling themselves "White" people. Those concepts simply did not exist at that time.

So, the Pathology is real because the Paradigm that is supported by is real.

 

First off, despite what Michael Eric Dyson might tell you, when I said, "you lie," that was not coded language for "you lie, you uppity n-word."

Secondly, as for your excuse for lying, let me just share some life-improving philosophy with you. Don't just be honest to me; be honest to yourself. Say what you mean, and mean what you say.

Ok, Michelle, my belle?

 

Are you assuming my race based on my stance against affirmative action? If so, do you believe that all black people are for affirmative action? If you do, that is pretty racist. Believe it or not, all blacks don't support affirmative action, especially conservative blacks, like Thomas Sowell. You might want to check yourself. All blacks don't think alike.

 

Do me a favor. Record yourself setting your bed on fire in your apartment or your house, and then try to put that fire out with more fire. If you can put that fire out with more fire, then I will stand behind affirmative action, a racist policy that you say reduces racism with racism.

 

Define, White Person.
Define, Black Person.

Then, define the rational basis for discrimination on the grounds of either being "Black" or being "White." When you are done with that, ask yourself whether that discriminatory basis was predicated on intellectual grounds, merit and whether or not those who promote it did so with functional IQ? Or, what is predicated upon the functional Pathology of "Supremacy." Finally, define "Supreme."

 

Given you're not bothering with logic, its a shame that you're also not bothering with creative writing.

 

I don't know the author from Adam. I do know that the New York Times, especially its editorial section, is a bastion of liberal nonsense with little if any actual promulgation of true-blue conservatism. Because of this, because the New York Times is essentially a subsidiary of the DNC and its platform, I take the credibility of the article and its author with a grain of salt.

For the sake of argument, let's say it's true. Let's say that an Asian American who had a low academic performance, and who (not kidding) blamed his low academic performance on racism by whites (how convenient!), got into Berkeley to meet a quota; it still does not contradict the fact that Asian Americans have been, and continue to be, discriminated against by affirmative action, unjustifiably gross as that particular Asian American's acceptance was notwithstanding. This salient fact throws water on and undermines your logic that the cornerstone justification of affirmative action is to help minority groups that have historically been systemically discriminated against by certain whites. It's nothing short of a pretext. The attempted legitimation of affirmative action being a remedy for racism is a pretext; it's an identity-politics-based policy to pander to minorities.

The latitudinarian acceptance of Asian Americans being discriminated against by affirmative action, while also attempting to legitimate affirmative action against white men in the present because certain white men in the past discriminated against minorities, including Asian Americans, is such a convoluted paradox at best and a flat-out contradiction at worse. It is a non sequitur.

Here is why you are engaging in a non sequitur. You're saying to help minority groups (including Asian Americans) that were historically discriminated against by white men, affirmative action discriminates against Asian Americans. See? It does not follow. Yes, you can point to how 1, 2, 3, or more, Asian Americans have been helped by affirmative action, but if just one Asian American (and the number is much larger than that) is discriminated against by affirmative action, it undermines your simpleminded, unnuanced justification for affirmative action--that it exists to help minorities that have been historically discriminated against by white men.

By the way, do you have any articles of black people being discriminated against by affirmative action? No? You can't find them? That's because none exist. And why is that? Since you want to pretend to be the cognoscente of affirmative action, enlighten me. Enlighten me why affirmative action discriminates against Asian Americans, but it does not discriminate against black people, both of whom are minorities that have been historically and systemically discriminated against in America, and then tell me how that squares up with your justification of affirmative action.

Do you know why I can pick holes in your bowdlerization of affirmative action? It's because it's simpleminded. It's because it's disingenuous. It's because it's not based in reality. It's easy work arguing with you. And, by the way, I'm not looking to change your mind. The intransigence of leftism is too great to be defeated through reason and fact.

 

It is a logical analogy; sorry that it illuminates the illogicality of your argument.