Who are the Nazis?

To be as frank as possible, this to me is what the majority of Democrats /supporters sound like to me.

IT is bewildering their errors.

 

Again bulls eye.

My first experience on forums was on AOL. And i selected a forum called the Great Commanders. Those people varied about whom they considered to be great commanders and I tossed in my perspective. But they were lucid and engaged and easy to discuss things with.

I wish the Democrats attempted to be easy to discuss issues with. I am sick of their trash talk.

The second forum was over Bill Clinton being the then president. I saw some very rough talking from the Democrats. Factually the republicans were cool and tried to engage politely.

My early comment was to the tune that a lot more can be achieved when moods are settled down, when facts are nearby to posters and the fighting had to stop.
Well I got attacked by Democrats.

It is the same today.

It was perhaps in the early days I commented I was bailing out. I was not interested in that fighting. I was talked into staying by republicans so I did. AOL ended up killing off those forums. Turned them into a different format. And it sucked so I took off.

 

That is a Jim Acosta form of question. It assumes I agree with your comment.

 

They engage in violence. To approve the antifa is to approve violence in the streets. They are not intelligent when they are cruel to others and lash out with weapons.

This is a case of a label meaning cruel and vicious.

 

The magic words, worker owning is where the problem rests.

There is nothing in the make up of workers creating a super class of managers to boot out the educated management.

All that took place was a far less centralized system replaced a more educated and focused group.

At the Real Estate Board, we directors practiced what amounts to socialism. We had a lot of committees that handled the grunt work and they submitted to us for our approval various things.

I want you to imagine it is Christmas at your home and it is no longer you deciding what presents you will hand out. You bring in over your entire block of neighbors who are there to make your decisions for you. That is socialism.

The fact they are not there for your particular interests means you have to endure their decisions over your own desires. And those getting the gifts are wondering why they got some gift they despise.

By the way, in my RE office it took a lot less time to make decisions than it took us on committees and on the board of Directors.

I was also a state director and there a day long decision took up to a full year. A good way to get slow decisions is to endure socialism.

 

Dude. I have one word for you: paragraphs.

 

Sit on your hands and see what happens to the fascist threat? We've always fought it. Understanding the paradox of tolerance is key.

 

You forgot to type "I have never heard fellow right wingers refer to an academic conspiracy"? It may just come down to right-wing identity politics. That tends to favour warped nostalgia (tapping into xenophobia and isolationism) over the application of research (which threatens identity).

 

Oh good grief professor.

 

Perhaps you believe the antifa is actually fighting fascists. They are thugs. Like the Nazi Brown-shirts prior to WW2.

 

Plenty of literature on identity politics. Personally I prefer the psychology analysis as I want to see direct testing, but good luck with the read

 

So you've never heard of The Paradox of Tolerance? There's a comedy value of folk sitting on their hands condemning those that aren't, mind you.

 

People who apply generalized, hyperbolic labels like "Nazi, fascist, racist, authoritarian, evangelical, white nationalist, alt right, misogynist, wealth apologist, etc." towards self-enrichment should definitely spend some time considering the inherent dishonesty and fallacies of identity politics.

There are two real "identities" in contemporary U.S. politics, the gov-edu-union-contractor-grantee-trial lawyer-MSM Complex that profits from the command transactions, high taxes and redistribution of overbearing, authoritarian central government, and the taxpayers of the voluntary transaction, non government-dependent private sector seeking smaller, less authoritarian government who are forced to pay for the immoral excesses of the Complex.

All other "identities," especially "fascist," that doesn't even exist in any material way and hasn't for a long time, are fabrications towards realpolitik propaganda and illicit political gain.

 

You continue to be helpful. Right wing authoritarianism does deal in the binary. Simplification is required to ensure that a sense of righteousness remains unchallenged.

Thanks!

 

You continue to post gibberish to this thread. Helpful to my confirmation bias. Thanks!

Better intensify the labeling though, after all fascism is on the march! Boogity Boogity!

Check under the bed, fascists love to hide there. Maybe spread some Borax around the floorboards too.

 

That you think challenging a binary perspective is gibberish is revealing in itself. Thanks again.

Now we know that there are a range of approaches adopted by the right wing. A fake libertarian parroting free market economics from site funded by big business will differ from the Trumpist victim of nationalism. However, there is less heterogeneity than on the left (explaining the ease of confirming right wing authoritarianism). Take heterodox views on capitalism. A Marxist will disagree with a feminist who will disagree with a Green. A Christian will disagree with a market socialist who will disagree with an anarchist etc etc etc

 

Wow! Great job of squeezing four Fake News false narrattives into such a short post.

 

Actually based on the evidence from psychology. For example, xenophobia and racism has been found to go hand in hand with right wing authoritarianism.

Ignoring the evidence is of course about information manipulation and it is classic cognitive dissonance territory.

 

What is that waft in the air? Hmmm, what could it be with all this "binary" chatter? Could it be the distinctive odor of the illegitimate academic "field" of "women's studies?" some other grievance-based social science glass bead game?

FYI people who can distinguish fakery in illegitimate social science and grievance oriented fields, yet have no problem whatsoever with STEM and other legitimate studies, are not forwarding "academic conspiracy theories," just calling out obvious horseshit.

Doubling down on conflating "bargaining-treaty nationalism" with the militaristic type of it I see. Not surprised. Is that just a woeful lack of historical awareness, lack of understanding that the same word can mean different things, or a purposeful intent to deceive?

Did you hear that Fox News has developed a new "mind ray" that can penetrate tinfoil? I heard bubble wrap still works though. Might want to look into that.

 

"Actually based on the evidence from psychology. For example, xenophobia and racism has been found to go hand in hand with right wing authoritarianism."

So?

"Ignoring the evidence is of course about information manipulation and it is classic cognitive dissonance territory."

Yes. There is a great deal of information being manipulated.

The Democrats, and their leftist media allies, have created this entire clown show of there being some sort of threat from so-called right-wing authoritarianism, or even fascism. There is no evidence supporting such a threat. There are only echo-chamber con-artists supporting each other's propaganda.

Nazis are not taking over anything. It's a totally fabricated fantasy.

Meanwhile, there are mobs of leftist terrorists being nurtured by Democrats and leftist media members.

 

You've gone off on one somewhat. I'm neither a supporter of the Democrats or using Democrat information as a source. I'm referring directly to scholarly evidence constructed from psychological experiment.

My advice? Don't hate evidence, embrace it. The other fellow seems lost in right wing dissonance. There's no reason that you should.

 

Don't create strawman arguments.

Nowhere did I dispute your representation of the report.

My contention is that it holds no practical value, in that there is no risk of any right-wing authoritarian threat.

I assumed that you were promoting that absurd false narrative.

 

No, they had terrible ideas, and thus why Nazi Germany fell.

 

These arguments are always essentially like "hitler had a mustache and trump doesn't so they couldn't possibly have anything in common." Insofar as nazism was socialist, so are most countries in europe, and that isn't a problem. The parts that caused the deep problems with nazism are the parts you brushed off. That is: militant uncompromising nationalism, extreme xenophobia, racism, white supremacist ideation, demagoguery, scapegoating, unchecked propaganda without a free media, suppression of dissenters. Without those things, and keeping the things you list, the (arguably) greatest tragedy of modern history doesn't happen. With only those things and discarding the things you list, it still happens. All of the things I listed are absolutely central to trumpism, and increasingly becoming the identity of the entire republican party. They are essentially completely absent from the democratic party (there are certainly issues with sjw wrt free speech and a couple other things, but, relatively speaking, more of just an annoyance). You can cherry pick things to make anything fit whatever you want, but the important parts are undoubtedly rightist not leftist.