Who are the Proud Boys

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  1. ECA

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    What you assumed about me is not a fact. So there's that :D
     
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    Of course you don't! You only see "more votes for Trump" in those words.
     
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    Why did you stop there? Keep reading...

    I am truly alarmed seeing the extent to ignore reality that Trump supporters are willing to resort to just to defend a white supremacist group.

    It's nothing short of shocking.

    They are racists! Racists support Trump. It's a fact! That doesn't mean everybody who supports trump is a racist. But that's the company you have chosen to keep. Just understand and accept the fact and move on!
     
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    What does that have to do with "western chauvinsts" or "modern culture"? The ONLY reasonable "option" is to presume that they are what the paragraph on the OP says they are: white supremacists.

    I wish right wingers would stop embarrassing themselves by defending a clearly racist group. As I told the other poster: just accept the fact that racists support Trump. And that doesn't mean that all Trump supporters are racists... it just means you're on the same boat. You can ignore the fact, or you can accept it as part of reality. But don't deny it! It doesn't make you look good.
     
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    Liberals are racist. Its a fact! just understand and accept the fact and move on.

    See how good that works? Saying something is true doesn't make it so. They are most certainly not racist, and you sticking your fingers in your ears and screaming racist while stomping your feet won't change that FACT.
     
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    They are when you refer to "western culture". Stop it! You can fool yourself. And you can fool other hard-core Trump loyalists. But no reasonable human being is going to agree with you... ever!
     
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    "Western culture" does not equal "racist" either. Almost every culture has had slavery in its past if that is what you are referring. Is is very simple to embrace western ideals and culture without being racist or promoting racism. Only the very simple minded think that they must be racist if they embrace western culture. I trust you are not that simple minded. I hope.
     
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    No. But THEY admitting it does.

    And you denying that they said it, despite the OP quoting them, is... very revealing (to say the least)
     
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    Where do the proud boys state that they are a racist organization?
     
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    You're participating in this thread without reading the OP?

    No wonder!
     
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    I assumed nothing. I just stated facts.
     
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    So now you're just trolling. Got it
     
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    I read the OP and it states the exact opposite of what you are saying. You seem to be very confused.
     
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    Give it up.The racist narrative has been debunked and you are just looking stubborn and foolish.

    Afro-Cuban chairman of Proud Boys says they are not racist or white supremacists
    https://www.christianpost.com/news/...hey-are-not-racist-or-white-supremacists.html
     
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    What the f... hell does that have to do with it? You thought that Cubans can't be white supremacists? I have visited many countries in the world and lived in a handful. Cuba is not one of them (was planning before Trump reinstated sanctions), but I don't think there is any country in the planet where there are no white supremacists. I've met many racist Latinamericans. Many of them of indian and black ethnicity.

    My God! This comment is more racist than anything I've read from these racists. (Note to mods: the comment. I don't know anything about the person who made it)
     
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    You've completely gone off the deep end. So, racism has nothing to do with race now? IS this the new liberal changing the meaning of words scheme? Since liberals have been shown that the proud boys cannot be described as racist, the obvious solution is to change what the word racist means! Of course! :roll:
     
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    How many times must it be explained to you that there is no such thing as race!!

    And please please don't embarrass yourself with an ignorant remark like "well... if there is no such thing as race, there is no racism". Get informed and then get back to us.

    Read my sig!
     
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    On that we agree. Ive been saying that on these forums that there is no such thing as race until I am blue in the face. You have finally come around. So, explain to me what white supremacy means to you. Because if it is not keeping down minorities so that white people can get ahead, then I don't know what it is.
     
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    A white supremacist group with an Afro-Cuban chairman. Say that over and over until you realize the absurdity of your position.
     
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    I don’t know. I know loads of black people who are very open about being proud of being black. Guess they’re racist?
     
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    White people have to be guilt ridden and ashamed or the left labels them racist.
     
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    It means nothing different to me than what it means to any moderately educated human being.
     
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    It looks like the one repeating it is you. I guess it's your way of escaping reality. And God knows escaping reality is, at the moment, a Trump supporter's most cherished desire.

    Good luck with that. And I hope reality doesn't hit you in the face too hard when you wake up.
     

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