Who did the most to win WW1 and WW2

Discussion in 'Warfare / Military' started by mynoon1999, Oct 30, 2011.

  1. Cordelier

    Cordelier New Member

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    I'd say Hitler on both counts.... he won WWI by taking advantage of the confused post-Versailles situation take control of Germany, Austria and Czechoslovakia and then he won WWII for the allies by being such a moron as Supreme Commander.
     
  2. tidbit

    tidbit New Member Past Donor

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    Hitler extinguished two generations of German men and boys. The effects of Hitler's dirty work is still being felt today. There would not be an invasion of immigrants if those two generations would have lived and would have had children.
     
  3. Cordelier

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    I agree with you completely, Tidbit (Wow, there's a stretch, huh? Hitler was a bad man! *L*) But you can't argue with the history.... Hitler came out the best in the aftermath of WWI and his bungling probably did the most to ensure Germany lost WWII.
     
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    China was not really "given" to the foreign powers, they were zones of influence, not unlike the way Germany was partitioned after WWII. It was still Chinese land, with Chinese administration. They primarily worked as security forces, keeping the peace in their respective areas.

    And it was given to each nation based upon their support of relieveing the International Legation during the 1900 Boxer Rebellion. Germany got a smaller area because their relief forces arrived after the majority of the fighting was completed, and they comitted many atrocities during punitive raids.
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Abraham Lincoln did the same thing with American men and boys.
     
  6. Strasser

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    It was certainly critical to keeping the Soviets in the war; Britain was the main provider of desperately needed materiel, especially armor units, that allowed Stalin to launch the winter counter-offensives that saved Moscow. Looking at the list of stuff sent, it doesn't look like much compared to the quantities of Lend-Lease that came along later, but the timing of the British shipments was key to Soviet survival at the time. Soviet losses were massive, and a shipment of 500 armor units doubled the Soviet force, for instance; they had lost most of their armor by the time the Germans reached Moscow.

    The Soviets wouldn't have been in the war at all without the western aid, from machine tools, fuel boosters for their aircraft, locomotives, gunpowder, advanced steel alloys, etc. It's a myth that 'the Soviets won 90% of WW II'.
     
  7. Strasser

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    For WW I, I would say France had the edge over the UK. For WW II I would go with the U.S., but the UK close to even overall.
     
  8. tidbit

    tidbit New Member Past Donor

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    I get furious when I hear the ruling elite whine about how Caucasians are not having enough children after they killed off two generation of the best and brightest men with their stupid wars. If all the white males that died in all the wars would have 'been allowed' to live, there would be a billion more Caucasians in the world than there are now. What a waste; and how sad that we now 'have' to import foreigners to 'pick up the slack' (like they ever could).
     
  9. Ddyad

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    That's it in a nutshell. VGJ!
     
  10. tidbit

    tidbit New Member Past Donor

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    50,000,000 people died in that war--most of them Caucasians, and most of them civilians. What a horribly sad thing! And now we import people so foreign to our culture that they are literally changing the dynamics of western civilization.
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually there are 3 billion to many people on Earth and 150 million to many people in America.

    It's the non Caucasian population who have a problem with controlling their population.

    It's the non Caucasian population who are complaining and whining "I'm hungry, I'm thirsty, it's to crowded."

    Living like rats or (*)(*)(*)(*) roaches is no excuse to breed and multiply like rats and (*)(*)(*)(*) roaches.
     

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