Who does—and doesn’t—support sending U.S. troops to Ukraine

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  1. Joe knows

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    I don’t think Putin would push a nuclear button. I don’t think he’s that dumb. I also don’t think he would attack NATO over a no fly zone.
     
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    Wow. A member of US federal government just testified under oath there exists a biolab in Ukraine.
     
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    Yeah. You want to take that chance, don't you?
     
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    I would take that chance. I definitely wouldn’t allow Russia to bombard innocent people in hospitals but apparently you would
     
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    That doesn’t mean bio warfare.
     
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    Dude, you realize a nuke war would destroy a few more things than a maternity ward in Ukraine?

    BTW, what remorse do you feel over the approximately 14,000 in the Donbass regions of eastern Ukraine which were starved, bombed and killed by the current Ukranian government?
     
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    To allow evil because you’re scared to counter it is just as evil as the people doing it. Specially if we have the means to counter it.
     
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    I was, again, watching Jennifer Griffin on FOX News and she made an interesting point. She said that the Polish Migs are in need of repair and maintenance. That's kinda disturbing from a preparedness perspective.

    I also read today that Ukraine has almost 60 in use warplanes currently and are flying 10-20 sorties daily. The pentagon seems to think that patriot missile batteries would be more useful to Ukraine ultimately.

    As for the no fly zone, if the US and NATO do this, they would be best to enter the war 100%. There is no turning back.
     
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    The potential for biowarfare. You mean, since the labs in Wuhan China were doing research on strains of highly infectious diseases, you couldn't technically call the leak of said strains biowarfare??:roflol:
     
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    You don't counter it when all will suffer and you don't counter it when the opposite side(s) are just as culpable. Dude, where were all the moron world diplomats who knew years in advance of the trouble brewing between Ukraine (and the US) and Russia?
     
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    What have you done personally to stop evil in your own ranks? Nothing. No moral high ground mate. As bad as they are. If not worse.

    The Pentagon Bio-weapons

    The US Army regularly produces deadly viruses, bacteria and toxins in direct violation of the UN Convention on the prohibition of Biological Weapons. Hundreds of thousands of unwitting people are systematically exposed to dangerous pathogens and other incurable diseases. Bio warfare scientists using diplomatic cover test man-made viruses at Pentagon bio laboratories in 25 countries across the world. These US bio-laboratories are funded by the Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA) under a $ 2.1 billion military program– Cooperative Biological Engagement Program (CBEP), and are located in former Soviet Union countries such as Georgia and Ukraine, the Middle East, South East Asia and Africa.


    https://dilyana.bg/the-pentagon-bio-weapons/
     
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    As I said, we are no where near a nuke war. That is the hyperbole being used in order not to discuss the excuses why Russia invaded in the first place.

    If Russia launches nukes, everybody, and I do mean everybody will launch as well. And Putin is not that stupid. We is just using the Nuke threat as a bully pulpet in order to get his way in a similar way that DJT used the "we will bomb you to hades and back" if you are not kind to me. It was a threat, a veiled threat I might add, but not action.
     
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    You often buy into Russian propaganda? Why in the hell do you think Russian propaganda would shine us in a favorable manner? What a joke you’re going to assume I have done nothing while you spew the propaganda from a country that is literally engaged at killing and targeting civilians and hospitals as we speak.
     
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    It's easy to dismiss it as propaganda. Once you follow the trail you will actually come to a conclusion that everything that was published by that lady is actually factual. Documented truth. In life you have two choices, either you accept the truth or you deny the truth. That's your call.
     
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    Just because you are quoting someone who says they have facts does not mean that their facts are true, accurate, and complete.

    Again, just because their are biolabs in Ukraine or that they were in a cooperative agreement with the United States since 2007 does not mean that weapons grade bioweapons were being made there. That is a huge leap, a huge assumption with no facts whatsoever. Inuendo is not facts and nothing Russia has as so called evidence is worth the paper it is written on. If it were, no invasion would have been necessary. Russia would have gone to the IAEA, UNSC prior to any invasion, and made sure that both Ukraine and the US was publicly humiliated on the international scene. But Russia did not do that, did they. They are bringing up this so called inforamation because their other arguments has flatten on the world's ears. In other words, they are throwing as much frak on the wall hoping some of it sticks.
     
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    There is no difference between you and an average conspiracy theorist. They also choose to believe in their own facts. Good luck to you. Cheers.

     
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    I don't believe in conspiracy theories. However, what I argued was logical. Why go to war when you can use the UN and international pressure to do your bidding. Russia has done that in the past as well as the United States.

    Besides, the YT video does not support your claim that Russia is the good guy here.
     
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    I'm not really game on sending American soldiers into the Ukraine battlefield to die, but I am supportive of using more of our sophisticated military equipment to take out as much of the equipment Russia is using that is killing innocents there and making this a more equal fight for The Ukraine.
     
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    Oh yes you do. You fully believed that Biden's were not involved in dirty business deals in Ukraine and China. The U.S media imposed censorship over 300+ million Americans for over a year. No one is defending Russia here. The point is that the USA is as bad as them. If not worse when it comes to biological/chemical weapons development.
     
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    The military has labs. They study potential chemical and biological weapons. They also do prep work for counteragents and cures.

    As technology advances, it becomes easier for someone to produce such things. So there is a small, but nontrivial risk of it being used by terrorists.

    Fact is, Soviet Russia loved that crap, as does Putin. So not studying that kind of crap would simply be wrong.

    One other point, Putin is ruthless. There is a very real chance he would throw one nuke at Kyiv in a last ditch effort to break their will. I don't think he will, but the longer this drags on, the more likely that becomes.
     
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    He made a valid point. Russia made the facts you are referring to. They told you they’re weapon grade and you bought it. That’s fine I’m not going to criticize because I myself have bought things and argued vehemently in that direction to find out I was wrong later. But your post really is buying Russian propaganda literally designed to slow our support for Ukrainians while they murder them. I’ll listen to the side not bombing hospitals
     
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    Every country has labs. Why are labs suddenly the source of all evil?

    I'll tell you why: Because of RW propaganda.
     
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    Are we going to take your word for it? .... "I’ll listen to the side not bombing hospitals["


    Kunduz hospital airstrike
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kunduz_hospital_airstrike

    Type Airstrike
    Location
    Kunduz Province, Afghanistan
    Target Kunduz Trauma Centre, Médecins Sans Frontières hospital
    Date 3 October 2015
    Executed by [​IMG] AC-130U, call sign "Hammer", assigned to 4th Special Operations Squadron, United States Air Force[1]
    Casualties 42 killed
    33 missing, over 30 injured
     
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    Some have their panties in a twist.

    We live in a dangerous world, ignoring that will get you killed faster than studying it..
     
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    If Biden was involved, so was Trump, Obama and Bush. We have had that cooperative agreement with Ukraine since 2007. If were are dirty now, then we were dirty since 2007. That is the logical premise of your argument. Yet, no evidence of wrong doing in the past and all of a sudden now? That too does not make sense or is logical.

    The other problem with your argument is that just because we were involved, then something nafarius was going on. I saw that with all the conspiracy theories with the Wuhan lab that Covid was intentionally created, blame China, yada yada yada. That too was BS just your theory is.

    The problem is that you are the one spouting a conspiracy theory, not me.
     

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