who will be the first republican to accept the facts??

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by gringo, Nov 16, 2019.

  1. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2010
    Messages:
    79,135
    Likes Received:
    19,982
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Did you not read this post?
    I don't know the D's position. Nor do I really care.

    But I think everyone know's the prez can assign FBI, CIA, NSA. So why did tRUMP us pvt citizen Guiliani as the lead for extortion?
     
  2. Josh77

    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2014
    Messages:
    10,511
    Likes Received:
    7,119
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Why not? Besides, all diplomacy is extortion and bribery in some form.
     
  3. Le Chef

    Le Chef Banned at members request Donor

    Joined:
    May 31, 2015
    Messages:
    10,688
    Likes Received:
    3,816
    Trophy Points:
    113
    "Take the worst, worst, worst-case scenario — the president abused his foreign policy power to gain political advantage. How many presidents have done that over time? It's not among the listed impeachable offenses. It's not a crime —

    VARNEY: It's not a high crime or misdemeanor.

    DERSHOWITZ: It's not any kind of a crime. It may be a political sin — that's a good reason for deciding who to vote for — but it's not a good reason for removing a duly-elected president. The Framers had a debate about this, and they rejected the concept of "maladministration" as a ground for impeachment. You need to show bribery, treason, or high crimes and misdemeanors. And even in the worst-case scenario by the phone call, it's not there."


    The only problem with Dershowitz's analysis is that it's not political enough. Democrats would call spitting on the sidewalk a high crime or misdemeanor.

    I would like to hear a legal rebuttal of the bribery allegation by Pelosi and Schiff. I think the rebuttal is this: Bribery involves payment for a corrupt act, not just "any act." If I pay an IRS auditor $5,000 to not maker a criminal referral against me after he confronts me with irregularities in my returns, like bogus deductions, that's bribery. But Trump didn't offer to pay Ukraine to do anything illegal. Or is it illegal (not smelly or e even dirty, but illegal) to ask that a beneficiary of foreign aid to investigate a political rival where you honestly think the rival (Biden's son) really is dirty?

    When we go completely insane and the guillotine is sharpened up, it won't matter who is guilty and who isn't. Half of us will be beheaded. And I'd say we are just about there.
     
    Last edited: Nov 20, 2019
  4. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2010
    Messages:
    79,135
    Likes Received:
    19,982
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    In the interest of USA.
    But you are for crimes to get what benefits oneself?

    Wow, R's are really low.
     
  5. Shonyman32

    Shonyman32 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2018
    Messages:
    1,557
    Likes Received:
    743
    Trophy Points:
    113
    When will people see it's not just a right or left thing. Anyone in power regardless of there personal views has the ability to commit crimes because of their power.

    The left commits crimes as much as the right.
     
    Last edited: Nov 20, 2019
  6. Lesh

    Lesh Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2015
    Messages:
    42,206
    Likes Received:
    14,119
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Ron Johnson is in the thick of this. It would be near impossible to vote against conviction if he wants to ever run for Senate again
     
  7. Josh77

    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Dec 3, 2014
    Messages:
    10,511
    Likes Received:
    7,119
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I'm interested in uncovering Biden's crimes, but I know you want to keep those buried.
     
  8. Lesh

    Lesh Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2015
    Messages:
    42,206
    Likes Received:
    14,119
    Trophy Points:
    113
    What crimes would those be?
     
  9. william kurps

    william kurps Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2019
    Messages:
    5,041
    Likes Received:
    1,872
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Same ones you are impeaching trump over?
     
    ToddWB and Josh77 like this.
  10. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2017
    Messages:
    20,802
    Likes Received:
    9,081
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Here is my guess and the truth will come out!
    [​IMG]
     
    ToddWB and Josh77 like this.
  11. ToddWB

    ToddWB Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2018
    Messages:
    6,254
    Likes Received:
    5,464
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Always the red tie,The red "power" tie! MAGA!
     
    yabberefugee likes this.
  12. Lesh

    Lesh Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 21, 2015
    Messages:
    42,206
    Likes Received:
    14,119
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Nope. There was no extortion for personal gain as far as Biden went.
     
  13. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2010
    Messages:
    79,135
    Likes Received:
    19,982
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You should actually have a map of the entire world. For the entire world is corrupt.
    tRUMP is the only non corrupt person in the entire world. At least from the tRUMP view.
     
  14. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2010
    Messages:
    79,135
    Likes Received:
    19,982
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    That could've been going on already, for 3 yrs.

    Why do you want to be a criminal to check out if another was a criminal?
    Why support crimes at all?
     
    Last edited: Nov 21, 2019
  15. william kurps

    william kurps Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 6, 2019
    Messages:
    5,041
    Likes Received:
    1,872
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Uhm to put his son in a nice cushy job?
     

Share This Page