"Who's gonna pay for Medicare for all?" is either stupid or disingenuous

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  1. squidward

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    It means that you cant show the part that demonstrates causation and further dont know what that means
     
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    So you dont know how better is defined in your study or how the data demonstrates it.
    And you dont know what is included in the cost analysis.
    You dont really seem to know jack about your "study".
     
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    Longevity and single payer.
    Establish the causation.
     
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    Where are you getting lost. What do you think it means, when single payer countries provide better care for a fraction of the price of our system?
     
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    So English isn’t your first language. Thank you
     
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    Access to care that is affordable.
     
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    "Pay me, leave, or get thrown in a cage." Not particularly civilized.
     
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    Of course it is. You voluntarily agreed to it.
     
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    I can't get on board with your "you voluntarily agreed for me to rob you" thing. It's barbaric and no amount of rationalization can justify it. I'm not going to participate.
     
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    Intentional misrepresentation of my position. Kindly stop doing that, or it will be reported again.
     
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    You gave some examples, life expectancy and infant mortality in support of your argument, yet have no ability to discuss even the most basic aspects of your "study", for instance inclusion criteria for study population regarding infant mortality. Further you have no ability to point out the parts of the study that establish causation between single payer and those two variables. Lastly you cant even discuss how better is defined or measured, or what is included in the cost analysis

    That makes you completely ignorant of the material you've posted.
    Congratulations
     
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    That was very scientific.
     
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    Again very scientific defense of your "study".

    Try reading it one day
     
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    I can’t understand it for you. Can you explain why every other country that has single payer, gets better care than we do, and they pay a fraction of what we do for it?
     
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    What's included in the cost analysis?
     
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    Now I'm confused. Isn't it your position that certain individuals have a right to take their neighbor's property. You call these people the state, correct?
     
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    Thank you
     
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    Read the study
     
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    Nobody is talking about individuals, or taking their neighbors property. This is the intentional misrepresentation you continue to make. It will be reported if you do it again.
     
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    Not individuals? So what/who exactly is the state comprised of?
     
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    Yep, you take steal the stuff from me I will take it from you, there is no way around it.
     
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    But apparently you agreed to it. And there are no individuals involved.
     
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    Why would I? I like it here
     
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