Why are firearm related deaths so much higher in the U.S. vs Canada?

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  1. Phoebe Bump

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    Obviously your snark detector is turned to puff.
     
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    Yet you are the one that pulled blacks and Lantinos out your butt based on American culture.
     
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    You know, of course (because you speak code), that race is what the OP was getting at. You can't speak code around me and get away with it. I been listenin' to it since George Wallace.
     
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    Ah yes, the "code" that only leftists understand. Too bad libs filter everything through your "code" which is often just a filter seeing everything based on race because they are obsessed with it.
     
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    I got no problem with Small Town Guy referencing me. He does so with my humility and thanks.
     
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    yep, you invited the race card in post #41....yep, that was the first race card played..............
     
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    we know why, but saying so is "racist".
     
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    It is disgusting & racist to say that some races are naturally violent. Reality is that there are different social dynamics affecting different groups. This video with Prof Roth explains it well:
    [video=youtube_share;riI-XPRgLwM]http://youtu.be/riI-XPRgLwM[/video]
    It isn't guns, race, or poverty.
     
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    Probably because the U.S. population is ~9x higher than Canada's. Don't over examine things, humans are pretty much the same where ever you go.
     
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    culture has something to do with it, canadians dont have the wild west mentality...its not part of our history, ours has always been one of law and order owning a gun to for violent intentions towards others isnt part of our psyche....
    We have gun control, people with violent criminal pasts, violent domestic disputes, threatened violence, mental health violence, addiction or drug dealing will find it impossible to get a gun....do those laws prevent all those disqualified types from accessing them, no...but it certianly prevents many...

    Handguns are even more difficult to attain, they have tight restrictions in regards to ownership, its not worth the trouble to get one for many potential legitimate owners...and then there is the side benefit there are fewer handguns to steal, and what there are are difficult to steal because they must be efectively secured not stored in a nightstand or purse....hanguns are likely the biggest killer in the usa because they're plentiful, cheap, easy to aquire and easy to conceal...
     
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    why would mexican cartels come to canada, home grown pot is plentiful, easily accessible and of high qualify, it wouldn't be as profitable for the Mexicans to operate here...and besides the asian gangs already control most of the market...
     
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    they dont have access to guns like american gangs, it takes considerably more intent to stab someone up close and personal than to shoot them from a safe distance...where our gangs have had access to guns they haven't shown any hesitation in using them...
     
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    I don't think you have the quantity of gangsters.
     
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    how do you know? you're 10 times our population you should have at least ten times the number of gangsters...at a minimum it's relative to size...
     
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    Gun violence has never been the same in Canada compared to the US. Pointless.
     
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    well...true. But there is more to it. We have a higher percentage of minorities. Most of the gun violence comes from black communities. Black culture and what I call....American culture.... has its special clash that I don't think Canada experiences. Black communities have some real problems here and keep in mind that detroit is like over 85% black and the gun violence there is incredible. This morning we had two people shot in my city---black gangsters. That is the norm here when it comes to who gets shot and who is shooting. Blacks produce the volume of gun violence because of the problems within black communties...

    We don't have so much a gun problem as we have a culture problem.

    Your minorities make up like...2 to 5% of your population. Canada is more homogeneous--which makes a less violent society.
     
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    2 to 5%?...noo, 20% of our pouplation are immigrant minorites compared to 13% for the usa, then there are visible minorites who were already established canadians...we have our somali
    Gangs, se asian gangs, south asian gangs, carribean gangs, biker gangs, native gangs....the difference from my pov is ridiculously easy access to guns in the usa, particularly the gangster weapon of choice the handgun...
     
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    It is hard to know the real demographics of Canada. I thought this helped.

    http://worthwhile.typepad.com/worth...f-canada-used-american-racial-categories.html

    Most of our gun violence comes from black neighborhoods by black gangs. We have a problem here---a culture clash that will no doubt get worse.

    I don't know Canada's internal issues---I am ignorant and can only do what I can on the web. It looks like you have a more homogenous culture. I could be wrong.
     
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    So here is a very telling Canadian article. A shooting death in Toronto is the basis of this story http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...round-black-on-black-violence/article8907404/

    So Canada has according to my figures 2.9% black Canadians. United states as around 15%. Yet te issues are the same--black kids shooting black kids.

    What would your gun death ratio be if you had 15% black Canadians as opposed to your current 2.9%.
     
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    its income and education...I live in one of safest neighbourhoods in my city of 1.2 million, its also over 50% visible minorities, africans, se asians, south asians , whereas another neighbour across town has 80% white population has one of the highest crime rates....the difference between the two, education of the residents....where there is violent crime there a lack of education and poverty that accompanies it, its not related to skin colour...
     
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    the gangs in my city are mostly asian so its hardly surprising that its asians killing other asians, skin colour isnt the cause...the connections are a lack of education/unemployment/dysfunctional familes/poverty...
     
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    Wow...
    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/06/05/3-police-officers-dead-2-injured-in-new-brunswick-shooting/
     
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    I know here there is a correlation between skin color and crime. But the problem is not due to skin color but directly due to a culture which promotes an anger against what is successful.

    Ultimately...law abiding people should have guns if they want them. Its a dangerous world out there.
     
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    you're ignoring the direct link to poverty, education, unemployment, dysfunctional families, it effects everyone regardless of colour ...and violence decreases with education, employment/income, stable families, regardless of colour...

    The correlation is a culture of poverty....
     
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    It is culture that creates generational poverty. Someone in poverty can get out of it or get the next generation out of it if the right choices and priorities exist.
     

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