Why Biden Stole the Election Even If He Got More Votes

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  1. ECA

    ECA Well-Known Member

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    Yes, those who have zero grasp of reality. But nothing can help those people.
     
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    James California Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ~ More likely facts and information - not "news".

    ~ You speak from experience ...:aww:
     
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  3. fullmetaljack

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    To bad they couldn't produce any FACTS or INFORMATION in court.
     
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    Unfortunately, our elected leaders have ever been too, "lazy," to make election day a national holiday, so all the malingerers who work two jobs won't have their, "pretext," for not voting.

    There are many other steps, as well, that our government could take to make being an informed citizen, particularly in regard to politicians' positions on issues (both currently & previously), less of a job, if they would get off their own, cushily-supported, derrieres.
     
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    You want us to believe your only issue is with “abuse of power”. Right.
    Still odd to me that you have issue with people getting help to vote by mail.
     
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    How did Biden change the rules? Wasn't Trump the one telling states to stop counting because his lead was shrinking? Wasn't Trump the one who spread the lie that votes aren't counted after election night? What about telling Pence to commit and unconstitutional act?

    So tell me who was the one trying to change the rules?
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ah, but abuse of power is only used to diminish rights.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Limiting government power is a consistent position for me. I am not towing a partisan line.

    Lets say Republicans have the numbers to force voter ID laws so they can obtain more power to throw people in jail for having a plant, or deny women the right to choose an abortion?

    Still okay?
     
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    Your own case of selective hearing has clearly advanced to a graver state, in which you not just ignore information, but imagine things that are not said; or, you actively deform their meanings, through your perverted interpretations of them.

    Alternately, you might actually realize that Biden did no such thing as you claim. And if that is the case: selective WRITING, is a distinctly different condition, a disease of character.

    If I am wrong about this, my embarrassment would be more than outweighed by my gratitude, should you offer a light to guide me from my darkness. This should be an extremely simple thing to show, if it is in fact, the case, that you were accurately describing something that the rest of us merely didn't hear. All you need do is quote Biden, defining, "domestic TERRORISM," as, "ANYONE who doesn't AGREE with them."

    So here's your chance-- we're all listening! Prove yourself right, & us intentionally-deaf: two birds...
     
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    So you are now arguing against your initial argument (or did you forget a question mark at the end of your statement)? Of course it is not so cut & dried as you state it. If an official declares all national land open for mining operations, oil drilling, & clear-cut lumbering, that official (who would almost certainly be abusing his power) would be simultaneously, expanding the rights of those industries, and diminishing the rights of everyone else to enjoy, or just to have as a part of our nation, those natural, "undeveloped," areas.

    But, back to the issue at hand: no one's (voting) RIGHTS were really, "expanded;" they were only made more easily accessible. And making it easier for some to exercise their rights, by definition, can not diminish the rights of others, only the EFFECT of their exercising their rights. Does this address your ambiguous point?
     
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    This is the bottom line, Joe Biden outcampaigned and outperformed Donald Trump as a candidate, thus he became President.
     
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    ~ They did. The courts refused to listen to evidence / testimony.
     
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    So you’re comparing denying women the right to choose with mail-in voting? My lord. Clearly it’s been a long day for you. Peace out.
     
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    With good reason, specified in the decision. In one of the cases the lawyer actually withdrew the "evidence" after the judge asked him if he had read it.
     
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    Few people in politics are dumb enough to make directly prosecutable claims, but all one has to do is look at the actions they endorse to understand what they are really saying.
    Simply this is why rioting arsonists and looters that were being given free reign by democratic local governments were called "peaceful protestors" instead of criminals. If a politician admitted they were criminals, the would be guilty of things like malfeasance and dereliction of duty, instead of just not being smart enough to know the difference between the two.

    Hopefully, you are mature enough, wise enough to know this. If not, you are probably not old enough to be here.

    So did you miss the news where Biden made the pleas for unity- or the ones where he said that domestic terrorists (which are implied to be white supremacists) need to be sought out?

    Try this article:
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/135-civil-rights-groups-against-congress-new-domestic-terror-law

    135 civil rights groups speak out against Congress' proposed new domestic terror law
    The failure to confront and hold accountable white nationalist violence is not a question of not having appropriate tools to employ, but a failure to use those on hand.

    The signatories noted that the Department of Justice (DOJ) and the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) already have the resources to go after "white supremacist violence" as well as "hate crimes, organized crime, and violent crimes."

    All the people who really care about the future of the nation see what's been happening. The people have been fed denial and double standards in the face of irrefutable fact for a long time, and getting fed up with it. That kind of conduct directly indicates a total character void in people, and thus a total lack of credibility.



     
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    This is voting in outback Australia

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    Goes both ways - now the next Democrat that loses an election can just doctor some videos, get a few TV talking heads
    to claim fraud, find a hundred Democrats to sign papers, put up a bunch of YouTube stuff, and storm the Capitol
    to try and get the vote changed.
     
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    I.......................................don't think so. Didn't work out very well for the Trump supporters and Republicans. I mean, we have point-and-laugh material for a generation and a new entry in all the history books that all those liberal teachers will be pouring into young minds.

    :flagus:
     
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    already thinking of corrupting the younger generation? That is pretty disgusting. SHAME
     
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    Calling EDUCATION "corruption" ? That is pretty disgusting. SHAME
     
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    Trump voted by mail, is that cheating?

    the reality is, these republican expanded the mail-in voting times because Trump was slowing down the postal service, Trump should have been disqualified for that

    that is like an ice skater trying to damage the ankle of a competitor - then whining that she got caught
     
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    My position is consistent. The number one goal on both sides is to gain/maintain power. Of course you can move the goal post to anarchy, but that is not my position. If I cut down trees and contaminate the soil and water, I would be trampling on your rights. Your example supports my position.

    Since we are moving the goal post around, those votes that were made easier by forcing mail in ballots were mostly cast for Democrats, who then use that power to diminish second amendment rights. My Democrat friends are complaining about how difficult it is to buy a gun. How about we just mail everyone a gun to make it easier for them to exercise their rights?
     
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    Nope. I made no such comparison and my day was 24 hours, just like everyone elses day. My comparison was how both sides are the same when it comes to abusing power.

    Forced mail in voting was an effective strategy for the Dems, who will now use their power to make it harder for people to exercise other rights.
     
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    No one was "forced" to mail in ballot.
    And what specifically do you think the Dems are going to do to "make it harder for people to exercise other rights"?
     
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    Yes, ballots were mailed by force. I received several I never requested. I even received a few with someone elses name and address.

    Democrats will now make it harder for citizens to exercise their second amendment rights. My Democrat friends are complaining about how hard it is to buy a gun.

    Since we are discussing making it easier for people to exercise their rights, can we mail everyone a gun?
     

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